The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux) - Page 206

BarTopDancer · 12-29-2006, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Nephythys

The ENTIRE world huh? Every single person everywhere?

Wow- that's an impressive and completely impossible to back up exaggerated claim.

Not arguing with you (I know better) -

The entire world doesn't. No, not every country (the entire world) sees this as a legitimate trial. Some countries do, some don't. Therefore, the entire world doesn't.

Please relax and take a breath before you jump down my throat in the future. Thank you.

I thought I was on ignore. Damn.

Morrigoon · 12-29-2006, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

I'm anti-death penalty.
I would have liked to see him rot in a jail cell for the rest of his life not talking to a single soul ever again...

Ah, but that would amount to mental torture. So damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Alex · 12-29-2006, 11:30 PM

I'm not really a proponent of the death penalty, but if anybody deserves it then people like Saddam Hussein do. And regardless of the quality of the trial I don't really harbor any doubt as to his crimes.

It was faster than Pinochet and slower than Ceauşescu.

I would have preferred a more dignified proceeding but that would have required removing him and trying him internationally which wouldn't be great either.

I do think they should have stayed the execution and allowed him to be tried on more charges though. Not necessarily every possible one, but more of them.

CoasterMatt · 12-29-2006, 11:45 PM

I'm still miffed they didn't put it on pay per view

lizziebith · 12-30-2006, 12:44 AM

I don't feel anything different now that he's dead. Wasn't I supposed to feel different?

SacTown Chronic · 12-30-2006, 12:56 AM

^No orgasms?

SacTown Chronic · 12-30-2006, 12:58 AM

I mean, uh, don't you feel safer?

Motorboat Cruiser · 12-30-2006, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Morrigoon

Ah, but that would amount to mental torture. So damned if you do, damned if you don't.

I don't agree that being removed from society because you have taken the lives of others is mental torture.

And while I'm not exactly shedding tears here, I can't say I feel good either. I don't see that anything was accomplished other than vengeance, and while that might feel good, I suspect the repercussions are going to sour that good feeling pretty quickly. Then we can catch those people and kill them and then others will kill more of ours and the cycle continues ad nausium. Meanwhile, the innocent people in the middle of this mess, keep dying every day. Woo-hoo.

We're going to get to the point eventually to where we've killed more innocent Iraqi's than Saddam. And yet, it is justified because we are trying to help them. Yeah, tell that to the victims families.

Gemini Cricket · 12-30-2006, 11:24 AM

Well said, MBC.

Nephythys · 12-30-2006, 11:43 AM

WE? Who is WE MBC?

While I admit that obviously we have had some crimes committed by our military- WE are not over there randomly and flagrantly killing innocent people.

Actually- I would say based on any sources more people are killed by terrorists and insurgents and this in-fighting among the factions there than any WE have killed.

Or maybe you missed that? Is it just easier to blame us?

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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	I'm not really a proponent of the death penalty, but if anybody deserves it then people like Saddam Hussein do. And regardless of the quality of the trial I don't really harbor any doubt as to his crimes. It was faster than Pinochet and slower than Ceauşescu. I would have preferred a more dignified proceeding but that would have required removing him and trying him internationally which wouldn't be great either. I do think they should have stayed the execution and allowed him to be tried on more charges though. Not necessarily every possible one, but more of them.
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lizziebith Wishing these titles could be longe Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Pearblossom CA Posts: 984	I don't feel anything different now that he's dead. Wasn't I supposed to feel different? __________________ $ DO \|\| !$ DO ; TRY TRY: COMMAND NOT FOUND
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12-30-2006, 12:56 AM	#2056
SacTown Chronic the myth of the dream Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,217	^No orgasms?
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12-30-2006, 12:58 AM	#2057
SacTown Chronic the myth of the dream Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,217	I mean, uh, don't you feel safer?
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12-30-2006, 11:24 AM	#2059
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	Well said, MBC.
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12-30-2006, 11:43 AM	#2060
Nephythys Yeah, that's about it- Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In a state of constant crap to get done Posts: 2,688	WE? Who is WE MBC? While I admit that obviously we have had some crimes committed by our military- WE are not over there randomly and flagrantly killing innocent people. Actually- I would say based on any sources more people are killed by terrorists and insurgents and this in-fighting among the factions there than any WE have killed. Or maybe you missed that? Is it just easier to blame us?
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