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Old 01-02-2007, 01:12 PM   #1
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I am not trying to dissuade you from that position (self made box) or the series of positions and rules that you laydown for others yet can't seem to follow yourself.

However my point that you continue to sidestep by getting all bent does in a way sidestep yours so I can see why you might see it as "Dismissive."

My Position is that we are better served by a government that does little to nothing substansial, than one that overreaches and meddles and makes a mokery of oversight.

Your entire point that the government must have a concensus budget passed or it is an abject failure IMO is a big ol red herring.

Interum stop gap spending of absolutely essensal programs at current levels is automatic. And those programs that do not get funded and start screaming the loudest get emergency funding those that are unworthy yet scream bitch and mule for funding get the added benifit of public oversight.

Anyone of any Ilk should be able to at least grasp the alternate without feeling thier own position is attacked, well anyone with a point that is worth defending.

Chosing to argue that alternate is of course completely optional.

And as far as Mr Kettle is concerned I am continualy astounded by how someone with such a dismissive argumentitive style is so easily riled up when his own iron clad arguments are poo pooed in any real or precieved way.
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Old 01-02-2007, 02:05 PM   #2
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Your entire point that the government must have a concensus budget passed or it is an abject failure IMO is a big ol red herring.

Interum stop gap spending of absolutely essensal programs at current levels is automatic. And those programs that do not get funded and start screaming the loudest get emergency funding those that are unworthy yet scream bitch and mule for funding get the added benifit of public oversight.
Oh look, actual talking points instead of labels, finally something to respond to.

Emergency supplemental spending is a load of crap. It's allowed our budget to bloat to enormous size, spending it on programs that need to be trimmed. It doesn't renew things at the same level, it renews things at the same level of inflation. So not only are the hard decisions about what funding should be cut not being made, those budget items are continually increasing in size. Thanks to the Budget Enforcement Act of 1990, emergency spending bills are devoid of the level of justification and spending limits that appropriately-passed budgets are subject to.

I may have liberal social views, but government bloat pisses me off. And to see a congressman in a congress that has been too busy finding ways to over fund their pet projects whining about the prospect of actually keeping their butts in Washington to perform the function for which they were elected is pathetic. Just because Congress manages to find ways to get money spent does not mean they are fulfilling their duty of overseeing the budget. They are completely skirting around it, and it surprises me to see someone who is usually rather rabidly on the side of smaller government arguing for one of the most bloat-inducing practices in recent political memory.
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