Idiocracy

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Originally Posted by Not Afraid

Because they've all given up on me.

Originally Posted by Babette

and they know my boyfriend

Originally Posted by Bornieo: Fully Loaded

And no female would touch me...

Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

There are no good reasons to procreate. Unless you traffic in the human slave trade. Then it is pure profit. That's the only time. And it's wrong.

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

And they know I'm nowhere responsible enough to care for a kid - if I even wanted one.

Jeez people. Can I get some help here? At least Traci and Wendy know what's up. I just hope we're not ostracized when it does happen

[DreadPirateRoberts]

Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

Jeez people. Can I get some help here? At least Traci and Wendy know what's up. I just hope we're not ostracized when it does happen

I'm with you CP! You guys will make great parents.

[NirvanaMan]

Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

Jeez people. Can I get some help here? At least Traci and Wendy know what's up. I just hope we're not ostracized when it does happen

Eh, many/most new parents tend to ostracize themselves just fine...ditching their old friends prefering to hang out with other parental units so they can spend all day talking about the little s#its and how cute the poopey they made yesterday morning was.

Hmm or maybe they are ostracized from their old friends and forced to seek out other like-minded parents becuase they insist on spending all day talking about the little s#its and how cute the poopey they made yesterday morning was.

But I think it's the former. Either way, kids are still totally not allowed in my house...unless it's in a bucket. They are not allowed in my cars, even with said bucket. Well, I guess I could tow them behind in a bucket on wheels.
But of course, YMMV.

[Alex]

Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

Jeez people. Can I get some help here? At least Traci and Wendy know what's up. I just hope we're not ostracized when it does happen

Of course you won't be ostracized, not by me at least. I'm a libertarian and people are free to do stupid things* to their heart's desire.

I'm sure I'll see Idiocracy at some point but you're the first person I know who has seen it (admittedly not many) and said good things about it so it isn't high on my list.


*Tongue in cheek of course. Like religion, the urge to procreate is a biological imperative that our lord savior forgot to give me. I've weighed the pros and cons and haven't yet thought of anything for the pro column. Most of the pros for other people end up, at best, in an imaginary third "meh" column. So long as people are intelligent about their baby-making and don't try to force me to give a damn about the birthday of a four-year-old then I wish you all the best.

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

Jeez people. Can I get some help here? At least Traci and Wendy know what's up. I just hope we're not ostracized when it does happen

You guys will make great parents when it happens. And there will probably be a baby shower like no other. Really, how many baby showers have a Paramedic rumor mill there?

And for the *help* - I'm sure one of these days I'll have a kid or two. It's just not anything I'm thinking about now, or in the near future. Let's just hope I don't misplace it in Costco or anything.

Originally Posted by CirqueLover

You can all talk big about not liking rugrats but I have seen some of you with Wendy's daughter and my son! So maybe, it's just as long as they aren't yours, that you can tolerate them.
Of course it's more fun when they aren't yours. You spoil them, do things they aren't supposed to, get them all hopped up on sugar and then return them to the parents when you are done! That was my favorite thing to do with my nephew!

Oh I love kids. As long as I can give them back. BlueErica's sisters, my other friends baby. Spoil em rotten, give them back.

But I also know that I am way to selfish right now and not nearly responsible enough to have kids right now. I had cats that I had to give away (mainly because I was allergic) but I wasn't home enough to give them the attention they wanted/needd.

[Babette]

Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

Jeez people. Can I get some help here? At least Traci and Wendy know what's up. I just hope we're not ostracized when it does happen

When people have kids they tend to no longer be availabe for social situations. When they are available, they have to get home to relieve the sitter, or bring the kids along. This drastically changes the kinds of activities, parties and socializing they do. People with kids tend to phase out their childless friends, not on purpose, but they do. They have play dates, dinner at chuck e. cheeses and bounce house parties. Clubs, fancy restaurants, psychadelic museums, and big people slumber parties become a thing of the past. They are not ostracized, just common interests change.

It is not good or bad, just fact. People choose to live the single or family lifestyle. Both have their pros and cons, I am not knocking either one. They just don't always go together.

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Anecdotally on my part, far too many prospective parents seem to want to wait for conditions in their married and financial lives to be "perfect" before having kids ... and too many of them also forget to compute the age they will be when they must deal with the VERY trying teenage years of their offspring whose creation they are putting off.

This is the point of the movie Idiocracy. The responsible, smart people are making money and no longer having kids, while the dumb, poor, irresponsible ones are over-reproducing and on welfare. The dumb, poor, irresponsible genes carry on while the smart, responsible ones die out. Scary future.

[Alex]

Originally Posted by Babette

The dumb, poor, irresponsible genes carry on while the smart, responsible ones die out. Scary future.

Of course, this assumes that poor and irresponsible are genetic predispositions which is unlikely. And the evidence that dumb is genetic isn't very strong either.

I certainly hope the movie doesn't make a genetic claim for these.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

I certainly hope the movie doesn't make a genetic claim for these.

It doesn't really specify whether it's genetics or environment. Either way works for the picture.

[tracilicious]

Originally Posted by Babette

When people have kids they tend to no longer be availabe for social situations. When they are available, they have to get home to relieve the sitter, or bring the kids along. This drastically changes the kinds of activities, parties and socializing they do. People with kids tend to phase out their childless friends, not on purpose, but they do. They have play dates, dinner at chuck e. cheeses and bounce house parties. Clubs, fancy restaurants, psychadelic museums, and big people slumber parties become a thing of the past. They are not ostracized, just common interests change.

I think a balance can be had. It requires a juggle but we manage to have cool non-mainstream grown up interests in the midst of bounce house parties and the like. Granted, we don't hang out with your average parent, so many of our parent friends are into really cool things too. I think if all sides are willing to be flexible, old friendships can remain just as strong, only different.