Amazing Race: All Stars

[lashbear]

I guess the reason we don't really like Romber (and btw we also dislike the laziness of compressing two names into one like Romber and Brangelina) is because we believe that people should have a bit of integrity to their character, and some morals, but Rob & Amber have demonstrated time and time again that these shows are just devices to allow us to see the worst of peoples behaviour.

We will continue to watch it, because you do get people with some sense of compassion and morals who will stop and help someone who's broken down, or who will give money to teams in need (especially if they pose no threat to your team)

I think it is possible to win one of these races without lowering yourself to Unconscionable Conduct.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by lashbear

I think it is possible to win one of these races without lowering yourself to Unconscionable Conduct.

I guess I just don't see using tactics that are within the rules as "unconscionable." These people voluntarily signed up for a race. Not a cooperative team-building event, not a leisurely world tour. A race. Short of breaking rules or causing someone harm, I don't find anything done within the game to get an advantage in that game "unconscionable". Within the game, Rob and Amber are ruthless, but above board. They don't cheat, they don't blame their failures on anyone but themselves, and they are completely up front about being there to win the game.

They don't strike me as the type who would carry that same philosophy outside of the game. The may be arrogant and ruthlessly competitive, but nothing's ever given me the impression that they're like that in real life.
Their whole attitude is, "This is a game, the only goal is to win the game, so why weaken my position with concepts of charity, honor, and morality that have no bearing on the game."

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

I guess I just don't see using tactics that are within the rules as "unconscionable." These people voluntarily signed up for a race. Not a cooperative team-building event, not a leisurely world tour. A race. Short of breaking rules or causing someone harm, I don't find anything done within the game to get an advantage in that game "unconscionable". Within the game, Rob and Amber are ruthless, but above board. They don't cheat, they don't blame their failures on anyone but themselves, and they are completely up front about being there to win the game.

They don't strike me as the type who would carry that same philosophy outside of the game. The may be arrogant and ruthlessly competitive, but nothing's ever given me the impression that they're like that in real life.
Their whole attitude is, "This is a game, the only goal is to win the game, so why weaken my position with concepts of charity, honor, and morality that have no bearing on the game."

If I wanted to watch a reality show about lying, cheating, and back-stabbing I'd watch Survivor or Big Brother.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by JWBear

If I wanted to watch a reality show about lying, cheating, and back-stabbing I'd watch Survivor or Big Brother.

Cheating?

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Cheating?

Cheating on the rules, or cheating other racers... Both are wrong, IMO. My I remind you that it was R&A that stole the paper with directions that a flight attendant wrote out for U&J? Nasty people. Ugh!

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by JWBear

Cheating on the rules, or cheating other racers... Both are wrong, IMO. My I remind you that it was R&A that stole the paper with directions that a flight attendant wrote out for U&J? Nasty people. Ugh!

All's fair in love and war. If your catcher's not disguising his signs with a man on second base, you deserve to have your signs stolen.

Perhaps I'd dislike the way they play a little more, and perhaps I'd feel for the other players if those other player weren't whining so much about it. But the more they whined, the more I wanted R&A to play them like fools. It's one thing to be annoyed at them being sneaky and manipulative. But DO something about it. Don't bitch and moan and expect them to suddenly make nice. You know what you're up against, do what you need to do to either accept it or fight back.

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

All's fair in love and war. If your catcher's not disguising his signs with a man on second base, you deserve to have your signs stolen.

Perhaps I'd dislike the way they play a little more, and perhaps I'd feel for the other players if those other player weren't whining so much about it. But the more they whined, the more I wanted R&A to play them like fools. It's one thing to be annoyed at them being sneaky and manipulative. But DO something about it. Don't bitch and moan and expect them to suddenly make nice. You know what you're up against, do what you need to do to either accept it or fight back.

IOW, descend to their level. No thanks. I’d rather watch a show where teams win or lose based on their racing abilities, not on how well they can screw the other teams. (I hate the Yield for that very reason.) As I said before, if I wanted to watch Survivor, then that’s what I’d be watching.