Chastity Rings - Political Derail

[Ponine]

(you type faster than I do Helen)

[Alex]

Sure they do.

[Morrigoon]

Originally Posted by 3894

Nah. The stereotypical liberal doesn't see the point of gun ownership.

Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

Sure they do.

Interesting question. After all, I think the stereotypical liberal has a stronger mistrust for the government than the typical conservative, so why are the conservatives more supportive of gun ownership, I wonder?

Perhaps because the stereotypical liberal lives in the city, vs. the stereotypical conservative in more rural areas?

This topic suddenly fascinates me.

[Strangler Lewis]

Along the lines of Alex's post, I think the liberal and conservative trust/distrust of government are about equal, depending on what is being discussed. Both sides fear that the government will intrude on the particular freedoms that they hold dear. Both also trust the government to discharge certain goals that they value. For example, liberals trust the government to help the poor. Conservatives trust the government to demonize them and incarcerate them at alarming rates.

I believe both are correct. Private charitable activity could not come close to supplanting government welfare and food stamp programs that keep people from starving in the streets or turning to crime. By the same token, draconian sentencing laws and the prison industrial complex do a far better job at keeping the poor in their place than random acts of private violence ever could.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Strangler Lewis

For example, liberals trust the government to help the poor. Conservatives trust the government to demonize them and incarcerate them at alarming rates.

As another example, conservatives trust the government provide for the common defense. Liberals think that burying their head in the sand and weakening our military is preferable.

I say that in deepest sarcasm in response to the moronic statement quoted.

[innerSpaceman]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

I say that in deepest sarcasm in response to the moronic statement quoted.

And yet the person you quoted is initimately familar with our criminal injustice system ... while you, I assume, are not.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

And yet the person you quoted is initimately familar with our criminal injustice system ... while you, I assume, are not.

You miss my point. I did not take his statement as regarding the criminal justice system alone, but as far more reaching in a condemnation of conservatives that are apparently by definition in support of imprisoning the poor for being, well, poor.

I am not intimately familiar with the justice system. I am, however, familiar with numerous conservatives and am one myself.