Amazing Race: All Stars

[Jughead P. Jones]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

I think Rob masterminded one of the most amazing moves the first season he was on- remember the meat eating competition?? His choice to bail out and convince other teams to do so ensured their ability to stay in the race.

That's the point in season 7 where I said to myself..."Damn...that's BRILLIANT!!!"

That way, he secured his position by getting Meredith/Gretchen and Ray/Deana to drop out AFTER he did!

[Mousey Girl]

I love watching team Cha-cha-cha and the BQ's. I would really like to see Uchena and Joyce go all the way again. They seem like truly "nice" players.

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

I guess I just don't see using tactics that are within the rules as "unconscionable." These people voluntarily signed up for a race. Not a cooperative team-building event, not a leisurely world tour. A race. Short of breaking rules or causing someone harm, I don't find anything done within the game to get an advantage in that game "unconscionable". Within the game, Rob and Amber are ruthless, but above board. They don't cheat, they don't blame their failures on anyone but themselves, and they are completely up front about being there to win the game.

They don't strike me as the type who would carry that same philosophy outside of the game. The may be arrogant and ruthlessly competitive, but nothing's ever given me the impression that they're like that in real life.
Their whole attitude is, "This is a game, the only goal is to win the game, so why weaken my position with concepts of charity, honor, and morality that have no bearing on the game."

If I wanted to watch a reality show about lying, cheating, and back-stabbing I'd watch Survivor or Big Brother.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by JWBear

If I wanted to watch a reality show about lying, cheating, and back-stabbing I'd watch Survivor or Big Brother.

Cheating?

[lashbear]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Short of breaking rules or causing someone harm

Originally Posted by Nephythys

It's not like they were physically assaulting people

Ah, see, but this brings me to remember when the vehicle containing the Hippy dudes overturned. There was every possibility to the casual observer that something could have gone terribly wrong, but rather than stop to check that people were OK, R&A just drove merrily past making conversation to the effect that they were sure to get an advantage from the situation.

Problem is, there aren't a whole lot of rules to be broken in the first place.

Not cricket IMO, but that's just me. You know how Mary Poppins I can be.

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by lashbear

There was every possibility to the casual observer that something could have gone terribly wrong, but rather than stop to check that people were OK, R&A just drove merrily past

Ahh but the problem is that YOU were not the casual observer. The way they edit the show it's quite possible that by the time R&A drove by there were four tow trucks, eleven ambulances, a gaggle of fire trucks, two priests and a girl scout on the scene, but in the "editing" process all YOU would see would be the two of them driving by the "wreck".

[lashbear]

Darn you, Moriarty !!


You don't mean I'm... being .. I can't say it, no.... Yes, Manipulated ??

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Cheating?

Cheating on the rules, or cheating other racers... Both are wrong, IMO. My I remind you that it was R&A that stole the paper with directions that a flight attendant wrote out for U&J? Nasty people. Ugh!

[Jughead P. Jones]

Originally Posted by Mousey Girl

I love watching team Cha-cha-cha and the BQ's. I would really like to see Uchena and Joyce go all the way again. They seem like truly "nice" players.

Yeah, I'm definitely rooting for Oswald and Danny.

And, last season, I wanted Dustin and Kandice to win so badly, and for them to come in fourth place was really upsetting. I'm glad they're getting a second chance!

I'm a fan of Uchenna and Joyce too...and you know what? Although the Guidos really annoyed me during their season (season 1)...this time around, I'm actually starting to...gulp...LIKE them!!!

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by JWBear

Cheating on the rules, or cheating other racers... Both are wrong, IMO. My I remind you that it was R&A that stole the paper with directions that a flight attendant wrote out for U&J? Nasty people. Ugh!

All's fair in love and war. If your catcher's not disguising his signs with a man on second base, you deserve to have your signs stolen.

Perhaps I'd dislike the way they play a little more, and perhaps I'd feel for the other players if those other player weren't whining so much about it. But the more they whined, the more I wanted R&A to play them like fools. It's one thing to be annoyed at them being sneaky and manipulative. But DO something about it. Don't bitch and moan and expect them to suddenly make nice. You know what you're up against, do what you need to do to either accept it or fight back.