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Old 03-29-2007, 07:45 PM   #191
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Meh.

And spiders
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Old 03-30-2007, 07:09 AM   #192
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This last show bugged me. I kept saying - just like Sawyer - who are these people? (and why am I supposed to care.)

The flashbacks bugged me - like they were trying to convince me that these 2 people have been there all along - when they weren't. I could have accepted it easier if it had progressed the overall story.

I didn't buy them not saying a thing about the hatch - especially her since she wasn't trying to hide the diamonds there.

And what about the spiders - there are these spiders all over the place and this is the first time anyone has encountered them?

Overall - I just wished the regular characters would advance.
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Old 03-30-2007, 07:49 AM   #193
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I don't understand the sentiment about the characters never being there from the beginning. There are a lot of survivors we have never seen. People in the background. I guess I just don't really see it as a bad thing to have looks at minor characters.
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Old 03-30-2007, 08:49 AM   #194
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And what about the spiders - there are these spiders all over the place and this is the first time anyone has encountered them?
That kinda bugged me too. But just like those spiders we haven't seen much other jungle life (other spiders, snakes, lizzards, etc...) either.

It was creepy how she opened her eyes at the end. I wonder if she is going to claw her way out (and we will have to accept that she was able to get air under there).
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Old 03-30-2007, 02:23 PM   #195
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I don't understand the sentiment about the characters never being there from the beginning. There are a lot of survivors we have never seen. People in the background. I guess I just don't really see it as a bad thing to have looks at minor characters.
I don't mind a character showing up like Arty (sp?) the dude killed by dynamite. That was awesome and added to the show, IMO. It's a fun way to include guest appearances in more than just flashbacks. But this was just poorly done, IMO.
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Old 03-30-2007, 03:27 PM   #196
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I figured out my problem with the episode (besides the spiders).

We have had weeks of booooooooooring and disappointing episodes. Then we had 2 really great episodes with action and progression. Then this. I've read that questions from the first season were answered but I've long forgotten what it is they answered.

It wasn't that the episode was bad. It was just a break. No forward movement. We were asked to think that they wouldn't tell anyone about the hatch, the toilet, the TVs and that the Others were coming for Jack. Had we had 8 weeks of non-stop progression then perhaps this would have been a nice break. It was a break we weren't ready for.

If that flashback was way back when, that does ask [again] how did the Others know about the Losties. It was interesting seeing how Zep I mean Ben explained how he got people to do what he wanted.

The previews for next week look good. But I'm not getting my hopes up.

I've lost interest in the show to the point where I now walk out of the house to go out at 10pm instead of sitting at home waiting impatiently for Lost to come on.
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Old 03-30-2007, 03:30 PM   #197
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I disagree. The Hurley episode was a break as well and I loved it. I don't require or expect every episode to reveal something earth shattering. Heck, I appreciate the occasional break in story episodes because, with a minimum of 2 seasons to go after this, they obviously are going to be creating more questions than they answer for a while.

This was just a bad episode with poorly developed characters, thin plot devices, and poor pacing.
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Old 04-05-2007, 12:01 AM   #198
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So the fence is, after all, to keep the smoke monster out....

or is it?

Juliet said ....as Kate glares at her "alright, we don't know what it is but we know it doesn't like our fences".

The way that is phrased, it could mean that the fence was built for something else and it is just happenstance that smokie can't get thru it.

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Old 04-05-2007, 05:23 AM   #199
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A fine episode indeed.

I was to the point of trusting Juliet. Now I am not so sure.....she was playing Kate until Smokie was about to get them and then she gets through the fence to save herself, telling Kate she in fact was aware of a weakness in it.

Does she know what it is?

Next week looks great....
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I love when Sayid become Sayid the Interrogator. He plays it so well, and I think the interaction between him and Juliet will be even better than it was between him and Ben.
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Old 04-05-2007, 07:21 AM   #200
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I enjoyed the episode but they're still getting themselves into issues that really don't make sense, IMHO.

Dumping the girls in the jungle but leaving Jack and Sayid behind...huh? I have a feeling we'll never get an explanation for that, except that the writers wanted to have the girls fight in the rain and get muddy. Jack could have stayed unconscious that long indoors with the canister but Sayid was supposedly outside and should have woken up the same time the girls did.

Seeing Kate kick the sht out of that bitch really made my evening. I hate both the character and the actress equally. Also out of character, I thought, was how Kate somehow instantly forgave her for the handcuff thing. She totally should have punched her and pushed her into the sound fence. Wouldn't you want to kill the chick who locked you up, tortured you, kept your friends hostage, etc etc? BTW, did Juliet wake up next to Kate in the forest, happen to have handcuffs on her, and handcuff them together? Or were they handcuffed but Juliet discovered the keys in her pocket? Why in hell would the Others set them up either way?

And why would Sayid and Kate let Jack bring Juliet with? She hasn't proven herself in the slightest. If the Others leave someone behind, you don't take them in! What happened to Sayid the protector?? (I do not watch previews for next week so I'm sure there'll be more about this, but their shrug shoulders attitude just made no f'n sense.)

GD pointed out to me (credit where it's due) that Sawyer is a con man and shouldn't have any trouble getting people to like him if he wanted them to. All the awkwardness makes for fun TV but makes no sense in light of his character. I was kind of irked that he got credit for the boar feast also. Was it because he brought beer?

Even the good episodes include so many out of character moments that it's pretty annoying.

On the good side....John's conversion is awesome, dealing with Jack back at camp should be fun.....the show will continue to have my attention, that's for sure.
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