Email I got from a friend at work- (I added nothing)

[Kevy Baby]

Wow, let's of rhetoric flying around. Let me counter your hateful comments and show you how wrong it is to state them by espousing my own hateful vindictive rhetoric (not pointed at anybody specific, kinda just an observation).

While I normally like to do more research before getting involved in such a spate, I will provide links to Snopes who did a little non-partisan response (basically: some facts, some opinions, some questionable stuff) along with a link Snopes provides with an alternative viewpoint from Voices in the Wilderness within Iraq. (I find it amusing that even those who bash the OP as whitewash never bothered to find any FACTS to support their argument.)

I've pretty much decided to stay out of matters of politics of late because there is not a single thing that could be said at this point (at least that I have seen) that is going to change anyone's minds around here. Well, that and free time for me is scarce these days.

[€uroMeinke]

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

I've pretty much decided to stay out of matters of politics of late because there is not a single thing that could be said at this point (at least that I have seen) that is going to change anyone's minds around here.

I really have to wonder if that's really the point of discussing politics, It seems to me, that most people do it to convince themselves that thier own opinions are right, and others are wrong. Shifting opinions would spoil the fun.

[Motorboat Cruiser]

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

Wow, let's of rhetoric flying around. Let me counter your hateful comments and show you how wrong it is to state them by espousing my own hateful vindictive rhetoric (not pointed at anybody specific, kinda just an observation).

I'm a bit puzzled by this post. I re-read the entire thread but I don't see any hateful comments being flung around (including your post, for that matter). I just see people being passionate about what they believe. Does it get snide at times? Sure, people get frustrated on both sides but I don't think that should be confused for hatred.

Although, perhaps you are talking about hatred for this president, something I hear quite often from the right. Supposedly, I hate my president and my country because I disagree with the direction we have taken. It is just not true though, as much as some would love to believe it. I hate that our soldiers are dying every day. I hate that our spending is out of control and that Iraq is eating up a good chunk of our tax dollars. I hate that Osama Bin Laden continues to walk free. Those are the things I hate, not President Bush, and certainly not America. I just don't think that Bush is doing a particularly good job. You don't have to hate the man to disagree vehemently with his policies.