Lost season three - right around the corner

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Even if it was, "Crap, slam the door just in case," he had tons of time to go, "Ummm, oh hey, the water's not even up to my knickers yet. Hey brotha', I'll be out in a jiff, lemme unlock this door thing and we'll go for a swim."

I'd have had a problem with that.

First, the door opens inward. Unless pressure is equalized, even a couple feet of water is very difficult to overcome.

Also, Charlie was a believer in Desmond. Desmond had said previously that if his visions don't happen exactly as he sees them, they don't end the way he sees them, and Charlie was doing this specifically to save Claire. He didn't want to risk it.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by FEJ

He closed it to keep Desmond to out and possibly drowning also knowing Penny was on the other end of the transmission. He sacrificed himself so Desmond could have the chance to see Penny.

Originally Posted by scaeagles

I'd have had a problem with that.

First, the door opens inward. Unless pressure is equalized, even a couple feet of water is very difficult to overcome.

The water was barely coming in. He had PLENTY of time to rethink and see that it wasn't going to kill Desmond and reopen the door long before the water ever got high enough to worry about pressure differentials.

Also, Charlie was a believer in Desmond. Desmond had said previously that if his visions don't happen exactly as he sees them, they don't end the way he sees them, and Charlie was doing this specifically to save Claire. He didn't want to risk it.

I suppose I'd buy that, but it was still a pretty weak way to die.

Sleepyjeff...if they answered questions the show would be over. The whole point is to keep having questions that need to be answered. If you stop expecting answers you'll stop being disappointed.

I believe Jack referencing his father was just him being drunk and beligerent and meant to throw us off.

I have a prediction for when they get rescued (presuming the flash forward can be taken as "fact" and that they WILL be rescued. Jack's wife will be there to meet him because she's his emergency contact.

[Stan4dSteph]

For some reason I think it might be Ben in the casket. I think it's Ben or Locke.

Loved the flash forward. That was awesome. What is it that they have all been lying about, as Jack said? Maybe they didn't tell anyone about the Others?

Totally rocking finale. I hope we get to learn more about what Walt may have said to Locke.

[SzczerbiakManiac]

I agree, frelling awesome episode!

I think it was Ben in the casket.

I think Sayid, Bernard, and Jin were spared because Tom (Mr. Friendly) et. al were questioning Ben even before that and just didn't think it was necessary to kill the hostages.

Yes, Jack's beard was horrible. (And his shirt needed to go too. )

Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

Oh, and musician or not, the Good Vibrations part was hokey. I mean, yes he knows the tune but he has no way of knowing which numbers play which note.

I disagree. That keypad had 12 buttons. There are 12 notes (8 whole + 5 flat/sharp) in the Western musical scale. Any good musician could easily translate notes to numbers, it's not an uncommon practice when teaching music to do so.

Originally Posted by scaeagles

First, the door opens inward. Unless pressure is equalized, even a couple feet of water is very difficult to overcome.

But he didn't even try! In fact, he deliberately closed and locked the door. IMO, Charlie did not have to sacrifice himself, but I guess he felt he had to die to save Claire. Grrrr!

Originally Posted by libraryvixen

Saiyd breaking some guy's neck with his legs? Hell yeah! That's what I'm talking about!

Oh HELL yeah! That was cool!

[libraryvixen]

Originally Posted by SzczerbiakManiac

Oh HELL yeah! That was cool!

I actually did, out loud, yell "Hell Yeah! That's what I'm talking about"... much like my brother and dad who watch Ultimate Fighting.

[MouseWife]

Originally Posted by SzczerbiakManiac

I think Sayid, Bernard, and Jin were spared because Tom (Mr. Friendly) et. al were questioning Ben even before that and just didn't think it was necessary to kill the hostages.

I thought that Tom wanted to kill them but that Ben set it up prior that they would shoot into the sand. They made it look like he questioned Ben wanting to kill them but after, when we saw them alive, it made more sense.

He said something about not agreeing with Ben after all they'd just killed seven of their people. They made it sound like he thought it was a bad decision to kill them because look at what they could do but in reality he was pissed and wanted to kill them because of what they'd done.

LOL Is that murky enough?

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by MouseWife

I thought that Tom wanted to kill them but that Ben set it up prior that they would shoot into the sand. They made it look like he questioned Ben wanting to kill them but after, when we saw them alive, it made more sense.

Ah, that's a good call. I think you're right, it makes sense with Tom's line. But then why would Ben have spared them. His whole point was to convince Jack to turn around and give him the phone. Once Jack believed they were dead, he had no reason to listen to Ben anymore. Hmmm.

[MouseWife]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Ah, that's a good call. I think you're right, it makes sense with Tom's line. But then why would Ben have spared them. His whole point was to convince Jack to turn around and give him the phone. Once Jack believed they were dead, he had no reason to listen to Ben anymore. Hmmm.

That, I don't know. Perhaps saving them for some other purpose? Some other leverage later?

[Eliza Hodgkins 1812]

Originally Posted by Stan4dSteph

For some reason I think it might be Ben in the casket. I think it's Ben or Locke.

Loved the flash forward. That was awesome. What is it that they have all been lying about, as Jack said? Maybe they didn't tell anyone about the Others?

Totally rocking finale. I hope we get to learn more about what Walt may have said to Locke.

I think it's Ben, too. The neither friend or family line, coupled with Kate's dismay that Jack assumed she'd be at the funeral led me to believe it's Ben, too.