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Old 06-23-2007, 12:03 PM   #1
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To be fair, Alex used the term "free" not of his own invention, but rather, as a response to Mousepod's definition of what Moore wants, or whatever.

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In a way, that might be why the movie is so effective. He actually doesn't propose any specific system, except that it's "free". He shows how the US system fails even the insured, and how the systems in Canada, England, France and Cuba take care of their people.
When I have less of a screaming headache, I'll post some stuff. But in short, and no I haven't seen the film, I do feel there should be a profit motive, for truly innovative research requires big bucks. With such high risk, there must be great reward and I'm sorry, saving someone I love probably won't cut it for them. People I know and love need that sort of innovation so that they can stop preventing death and start finding a way to a cure.
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Old 06-23-2007, 01:19 PM   #2
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People I know and love need that sort of innovation so that they can stop preventing death and start finding a way to a cure.
Fear not, young friends, there will always be innovation. Indeed, it is in our genetic make-up to want to improve life. As the old stand up joke goes (and what follows is the non-funny version of same), so long as there is the opposite sex to attract, society will continue to grow and improve on the past, if only to help the person get laid.

Nevertheless, it is time we start looking at health care the same way we do our fire and police departments. Somehow, these two groups survive even without handing us a bill for saving our house from fire or burglary. Thankfully, we live in a society whereupon if my home was set ablaze or robbed, the police and fire departments would not first ask if I had the fire/robbery equivalent to Blue Cross, before doing their job.

When health care does pass, and I believe that it someday will, it will not be perfect (the fire department can not save every house) but it will be vastly superior to what we have to-day.

For the moment, the naysayers have the stage. They'll bluster and sputter and shake their fist in the air, but when its all done, and free health care arrives, we'll wonder how, as a society of caring people, we ever lived without it.

I haven't seen the movie yet, either, but God bless Michael Moore.
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Old 06-23-2007, 02:14 PM   #3
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Fear not, young friends, there will always be innovation. Indeed, it is in our genetic make-up to want to improve life. As the old stand up joke goes (and what follows is the non-funny version of same), so long as there is the opposite sex to attract, society will continue to grow and improve on the past, if only to help the person get laid.

Nevertheless, it is time we start looking at health care the same way we do our fire and police departments. Somehow, these two groups survive even without handing us a bill for saving our house from fire or burglary. Thankfully, we live in a society whereupon if my home was set ablaze or robbed, the police and fire departments would not first ask if I had the fire/robbery equivalent to Blue Cross, before doing their job.

When health care does pass, and I believe that it someday will, it will not be perfect (the fire department can not save every house) but it will be vastly superior to what we have to-day.

For the moment, the naysayers have the stage. They'll bluster and sputter and shake their fist in the air, but when its all done, and free health care arrives, we'll wonder how, as a society of caring people, we ever lived without it.

I haven't seen the movie yet, either, but God bless Michael Moore.
Amen!
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