Transformers! (Merged)

Alex · 07-09-2007, 07:17 PM

And I don't live there and have never personally seen any of the places I recognized (other than the general downtown LA skyline). Mostly I recognize because they are used in movies so often to represent iconic LA (particularly Griffith Observatory which is probably in a couple hundred movies; Rebel Without a Cause; it is where Schwarzenegger first materialized in the first Terminator movie; more recently Drew Barrymore and Demi Moore beat each other up in Charlie's Angels. It played prominently in The Rocketeer).

Connecting to another summer blockbuster (one I did enjoy) a couple of the aerial shots you can see the U.S. Bank Tower which is the iconic LA skyscraper hovered over and then blown up by the aliens in Independence Day.

I'd like the Mission City : Los Angels :: Gotham City : New York City if they hadn't said Mission City is 20 miles from Hoover Dam. That's like if Batman crossed the George Washington Bridge into St. Louis.

Obviously it is not something that bothers most people watching. And like I've said I wasn't really bothered by it, I just had plenty of time to think about what I was seeing since I wasn't otherwise being entertained.

I was also mildly annoyed at them adding a completely unnecessary line of diaglog about how "NASA/JPL lost the Beagle 2 Mars probe." Why go to the trouble of adding that line just to get it wrong. Yes, only 1 in 500 people probably recognized the problem with it, but why not just say "remember that Mars probe we lost?"

They also said "gravity" when they meant "magnetic belt" in explaining why Megatron crashed. And, unless these robots are for some reason filled with air, dumping them to the deepest part of the ocean won't actually crush them. And unless these incredible pieces of machinery are taken out of action by a chilly October morning, the also won't freeze. The water at the bottom of the ocean is cold, but not that cold. Keep in mind it is still liquid while salinity allows a subfreezing temperature even at the deepest part of the ocean it isn't going to be any colder than 29 or 30 degrees Fahrenheit. In other words, if they have any fear of Megatron coming back to life the government's top people came up with a very stupid plan.

See the things I had to think about? Not because I went in looking to over analyze things but because I was somewhat bored so starting thinking about what I was seeing. So I would say the over analysis was a result of the (in my opinion I'll say again) suckiness and not the other way around.

BarTopDancer · 07-09-2007, 07:22 PM

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And, unless these robots are for some reason filled with air, dumping them to the deepest part of the ocean won't actually crush them. And unless these incredible pieces of machinery are taken out of action by a chilly October morning, the also won't freeze. The water at the bottom of the ocean is cold, but not that cold. Keep in mind it is still liquid while salinity allows a subfreezing temperature even at the deepest part of the ocean it isn't going to be any colder than 29 or 30 degrees Fahrenheit. In other words, if they have any fear of Megatron coming back to life the government's top people came up with a very stupid plan.

Maybe that is how they will explain why Megatron is back in the sequels (which I think are a very bad idea).

RStar · 07-09-2007, 09:47 PM

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I'd like the Mission City : Los Angels :: Gotham City : New York City if they hadn't said Mission City is 20 miles from Hoover Dam.

Really? I thought I heard them say 200 and some miles, like "220 miles north of here". I guess I heard it wrong, but I remember thinking "that's about how far Vegas is from LA" when I heard that line (not realizing it wasn't suppose to be LA).

xharryb · 07-10-2007, 04:13 AM

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I was also mildly annoyed at them adding a completely unnecessary line of diaglog about how "NASA/JPL lost the Beagle 2 Mars probe." Why go to the trouble of adding that line just to get it wrong. Yes, only 1 in 500 people probably recognized the problem with it, but why not just say "remember that Mars probe we lost?"

That was a nod to the first teaser trailer that came out last year where we only saw a shadow of a robot as it destroyed the Mars probe.

I'll give you Grifith Observatory as a recognizable landmark for the average filmgoer. I'm not sure if the average filmgoer automatically associates it with LA, but they should remember seeing it in other films and TV shows. Of course, the observatory scene was before they went to the Dam, so they could have meant for that to be a different location from the city they go to after the Dam.

Again, I'm not saying they did a good job with the location issues. It's one of the big, sloppy flaws of the movie. It shows lack of focus on the details because they figured you'd be too busy watching the big shiny robots to think about these things. However, as the average filmgoer living on the East coast the observatory and the dam were the ONLY recognizable landmarks to me, and that was only because they've been featured in other films, not because I associate them with their actual locations.

07-09-2007, 07:17 PM	#1
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	And I don't live there and have never personally seen any of the places I recognized (other than the general downtown LA skyline). Mostly I recognize because they are used in movies so often to represent iconic LA (particularly Griffith Observatory which is probably in a couple hundred movies; Rebel Without a Cause; it is where Schwarzenegger first materialized in the first Terminator movie; more recently Drew Barrymore and Demi Moore beat each other up in Charlie's Angels. It played prominently in The Rocketeer). Connecting to another summer blockbuster (one I did enjoy) a couple of the aerial shots you can see the U.S. Bank Tower which is the iconic LA skyscraper hovered over and then blown up by the aliens in Independence Day. I'd like the Mission City : Los Angels :: Gotham City : New York City if they hadn't said Mission City is 20 miles from Hoover Dam. That's like if Batman crossed the George Washington Bridge into St. Louis. Obviously it is not something that bothers most people watching. And like I've said I wasn't really bothered by it, I just had plenty of time to think about what I was seeing since I wasn't otherwise being entertained. I was also mildly annoyed at them adding a completely unnecessary line of diaglog about how "NASA/JPL lost the Beagle 2 Mars probe." Why go to the trouble of adding that line just to get it wrong. Yes, only 1 in 500 people probably recognized the problem with it, but why not just say "remember that Mars probe we lost?" They also said "gravity" when they meant "magnetic belt" in explaining why Megatron crashed. And, unless these robots are for some reason filled with air, dumping them to the deepest part of the ocean won't actually crush them. And unless these incredible pieces of machinery are taken out of action by a chilly October morning, the also won't freeze. The water at the bottom of the ocean is cold, but not that cold. Keep in mind it is still liquid while salinity allows a subfreezing temperature even at the deepest part of the ocean it isn't going to be any colder than 29 or 30 degrees Fahrenheit. In other words, if they have any fear of Megatron coming back to life the government's top people came up with a very stupid plan. See the things I had to think about? Not because I went in looking to over analyze things but because I was somewhat bored so starting thinking about what I was seeing. So I would say the over analysis was a result of the (in my opinion I'll say again) suckiness and not the other way around.
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