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€uromeinke, FEJ. and Ghoulish Delight RULE!!! NA abides. |
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Chowder Head
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Are you saying that an alcoholic has the same chance of recovering without any assistance as if he/she relied on AA?
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I'm saying that according the AA's own internal surveys of all participants, that would appear to be the case. The 1989 survey that was leaked showed the 5% success rate over one year which is the same as found among untreated alcoholics.
But neither am I saying that I recognized myself as an alcoholic that I would seek no treatment. I would not seek treatment through AA and pretty much every researcher agrees that AA shows no significant improvement over alternate treatments. I just do not think it is a useful part of the process to find a god. |
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