Addiction in America

[Not Afraid]

Originally Posted by Alex

The judge who is responsible for what whole thing?

Just to be clear, you agree it has some religious element, since it is over the line for what would be acceptable in schools (if it had none, it should be fine in a school too) but that the benefits of AA, in your view, outweigh the negative of forcing that level of religious content on someone.

If so, we've made progress. We're no longer debating an axiom. I still disagree but it is on a completely different level.

The judge who developed the "AA as a requirement" program.

I still wouldn't call it religion. I grew up as a fundamentalist Christian - now THAT is religion. AA has NOTHING on Christianity as I've experienced it.

There are also MANY MANY atheists who have gotten sober through AA. I think it is possible to be an atheist and still get benefits from the program of AA.

The "Big Book" also has a chapter devoted to agnostics. not QUITE the same, but remember this was written in the "dark ages". Nor am I a scholar of AA texts. I just do what works for me - which is better than the alternative.