Deathly Hallows Book Discussion **LoTs Of Spoilers** - Page 6

Cadaverous Pallor · 07-24-2007, 07:29 AM

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Given to me by non-poster Andrew. Gibberish in Neutran: Potterdammerung.

Spoilers Central. But hillarious.

How do they do this stuff so quickly? Funny stuff.

katiesue · 07-24-2007, 09:30 AM

Is anyone else thinking Teddy Ruxpin every time they read Teddy Tonks?

Brigitte · 07-24-2007, 10:47 AM

innerSpaceman · 07-24-2007, 10:49 AM

I wouldn't have put Teddy Ruxpin past J.K.

Sorry, but Rowling's names are second-silliest only to George Lucas's.

innerSpaceman · 07-24-2007, 01:14 PM

Ok, so a few questions:

1) How does Neville end up with the Sword of Gryffindor after it's been nabbed by the goblin during the bank heist?

2) When in all the commotion during the escape from Malfoy Manor does Harry gain the knowledge that the Cup of Hufflepuff is a Horcrux, and one likely to be in Bellatrix LeStrange's Gringot's bank vault?

3) When the goblins and a werewolf decend upon the camping tent after Harry mistakenly from habit utters "Voldemort," how is that ragtag band is able to capture such adept defensive-spell wizards as Harry, Hermoine and Ron (ok, Harry and Hermoine) without the trio using a single charm or spell in their considerable defense-of-the-dark-arts arsenal? WTF??

I understand maybe their own protective charms negate the abilty to dissaperate, but why was there no Expeliarmous, Stupify, Crucio or frelling anything?? It led to the most exciting stuff in the book, imo, but J.K. was lazy in writing a plausable way of getting them captured ... unless I missed something.

Did I?

katiesue · 07-24-2007, 01:27 PM

My opinion only-

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1) How does Neville end up with the Sword of Gryffindor after it's been nabbed by the goblin during the bank heist?

He pulls it out of the sorting hat the same way Harry did to kill the ballisk. Some kind of magic to do with the hat and Griffindor.

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2) When in all the commotion during the escape from Malfoy Manor does Harry gain the knowledge that the Cup of Hufflepuff is a Horcrux, and one likely to be in Bellatrix LeStrange's Gringot's bank vault?

Harry doesn't know that's it's specifically the Hefflepuff cup. He guesses that's it's something from Heffelpuff or Ravenclaw but he doesn't know exactly what. And remember he "saw" Tom and the crazy lady that had the Heffelpuff cup from the pensive so he did know kinda what to look for. So he figured the cup but he still didn't know what the Ravenclaw part was.

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3) When the goblins and a werewolf decend upon the camping tent after Harry mistakenly from habit utters "Voldemort," how is that ragtag band is able to capture such adept defensive-spell wizards as Harry, Hermoine and Ron (ok, Harry and Hermoine) without the trio using a single charm or spell in their considerable defense-of-the-dark-arts arsenal? WTF??

They were taken off gaurd for one. Also remember Harry is wandless at this point.

Brigitte · 07-24-2007, 01:27 PM

1) Not sure, I did read it really fast, but the sword came from the Sorting Hat. Only a true Gryffindor could have pulled it out, maybe it just appears in the hat when it's needed?

2) No idea, would have to reread.

3) Maybe they couldn't anticipate what he was going to say in time to do the spells? Didn't realize how fast the capture would be?

I really need to slow down and reread it at a more normal pace to catch some of the details. I did not jump ahead and read the end first, which was hard for me, so I read it as fast as I possibly could.

jdramj · 07-24-2007, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Ok, so a few questions:

2) When in all the commotion during the escape from Malfoy Manor does Harry gain the knowledge that the Cup of Hufflepuff is a Horcrux, and one likely to be in Bellatrix LeStrange's Gringot's bank vault?

If I didn't read too fast...Harry understood something was hiding in the LeStrange's vault based on how Bellatrix reacted when she saw the sword of Godric Gyffindor. It was supposed to be in her vault along with the cup. She freaked out when she saw the sword. He already had previous knowledge, albeit limited, about the cup.

BarTopDancer · 07-24-2007, 04:43 PM

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1) How does Neville end up with the Sword of Gryffindor after it's been nabbed by the goblin during the bank heist?

From what I understand, that sword was a fake as well. The true sword was behind Dumbledore's portrait.

innerSpaceman · 07-24-2007, 04:57 PM

Ok, now I'm really confused about the frelling Sword of Griffindor and all it's lame copies.

But anyways, Griffindor has a sword, Hufflepuff has a cup, Ravenclow has (basically) a tiara. What does Slytherin have??

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07-24-2007, 01:14 PM	#55
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Ok, so a few questions: 1) How does Neville end up with the Sword of Gryffindor after it's been nabbed by the goblin during the bank heist? 2) When in all the commotion during the escape from Malfoy Manor does Harry gain the knowledge that the Cup of Hufflepuff is a Horcrux, and one likely to be in Bellatrix LeStrange's Gringot's bank vault? 3) When the goblins and a werewolf decend upon the camping tent after Harry mistakenly from habit utters "Voldemort," how is that ragtag band is able to capture such adept defensive-spell wizards as Harry, Hermoine and Ron (ok, Harry and Hermoine) without the trio using a single charm or spell in their considerable defense-of-the-dark-arts arsenal? WTF?? I understand maybe their own protective charms negate the abilty to dissaperate, but why was there no Expeliarmous, Stupify, Crucio or frelling anything?? It led to the most exciting stuff in the book, imo, but J.K. was lazy in writing a plausable way of getting them captured ... unless I missed something. Did I?
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07-24-2007, 01:27 PM	#57
Brigitte Whatcha doin'? Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Loungin' with the kids Posts: 418	1) Not sure, I did read it really fast, but the sword came from the Sorting Hat. Only a true Gryffindor could have pulled it out, maybe it just appears in the hat when it's needed? 2) No idea, would have to reread. 3) Maybe they couldn't anticipate what he was going to say in time to do the spells? Didn't realize how fast the capture would be? I really need to slow down and reread it at a more normal pace to catch some of the details. I did not jump ahead and read the end first, which was hard for me, so I read it as fast as I possibly could.
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07-24-2007, 04:57 PM	#60
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Ok, now I'm really confused about the frelling Sword of Griffindor and all it's lame copies. But anyways, Griffindor has a sword, Hufflepuff has a cup, Ravenclow has (basically) a tiara. What does Slytherin have??
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