Deathly Hallows Book Discussion **LoTs Of Spoilers**

BarTopDancer · 07-25-2007, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

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When Harry was 'dead' in the white Kings Cross station, what was the deal with the moaning fetus thing under the chair?

I think it was the bit of soul of Voldie that ended up in Harry.

swanie · 07-25-2007, 09:01 AM

OK - I have a question...

Mr. Swanie is about 200 pages into Deathly Hallows and he is convinced that Mad-Eye is still alive since he is one of the people that placed the enchantments on Grimmauld Place and that his Tongue-Tying Curse would have "expired" upon his death. Since Mad-Eye's Snape thingy comes up every time someone enters the house, he's convinced that he couldn't have really died. I know he'll figure out that he's really dead by the time the gang gets into the Ministry of Magic so I don't want to spoil his speculation at this point.

My question is was it ever made clear which charms/spells/curses/enchantments/hexes/etc. live on when a wizard dies? As I said, I didn't want to ruin his "what if?" thinking at this point, but I did point out that the photo and wall hangings in Sirius' room and his mom's portrait still hang in the house after their deaths even though they have attempted to take them down. But, one can argue that the magic dies with the wizard as did the spell that Dumbledore cast on Harry in the tower when Snape killed him. Is it that magic can remain on inanimate objects and not on living things? Or is it the fact that it was a "curse" on the house and it boils down to the specific kind of magic that is used?

Cadaverous Pallor · 07-25-2007, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by swanie

But, one can argue that the magic dies with the wizard as did the spell that Dumbledore cast on Harry in the tower when Snape killed him.

What spell? I don't remember that. (I'm no memorizer.)

It's my impression that spells always stick, even after the caster dies, and that they must be undone by other wizards to be removed.

swanie · 07-25-2007, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

What spell? I don't remember that. (I'm no memorizer.)

It's my impression that spells always stick, even after the caster dies, and that they must be undone by other wizards to be removed.

Dumbledore told Harry to go and get Snape, so he put on his Invisibility Cloak and started for the door. Just as Draco was bursting into the room, Dumbledore placed a freezing charm on Harry, so he couldn't move. That's how Harry watched the scene unfold...frozen in place and unable to move until Snape killed Dumbledore.

That's what I don't get. Is it just the matter of it being a charm vs. a curse, or an inanimate vs. animate object?

07-25-2007, 09:01 AM	#2
swanie Wiiiiiiiiiiiiid Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 321	OK - I have a question... Mr. Swanie is about 200 pages into Deathly Hallows and he is convinced that Mad-Eye is still alive since he is one of the people that placed the enchantments on Grimmauld Place and that his Tongue-Tying Curse would have "expired" upon his death. Since Mad-Eye's Snape thingy comes up every time someone enters the house, he's convinced that he couldn't have really died. I know he'll figure out that he's really dead by the time the gang gets into the Ministry of Magic so I don't want to spoil his speculation at this point. My question is was it ever made clear which charms/spells/curses/enchantments/hexes/etc. live on when a wizard dies? As I said, I didn't want to ruin his "what if?" thinking at this point, but I did point out that the photo and wall hangings in Sirius' room and his mom's portrait still hang in the house after their deaths even though they have attempted to take them down. But, one can argue that the magic dies with the wizard as did the spell that Dumbledore cast on Harry in the tower when Snape killed him. Is it that magic can remain on inanimate objects and not on living things? Or is it the fact that it was a "curse" on the house and it boils down to the specific kind of magic that is used?
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