Gender & Culture - Page 2

Morrigoon · 08-01-2007, 05:18 PM

Yeah, but have your first period and you'll be begging to come back as a boy.

Morrigoon · 08-01-2007, 05:24 PM

Damn, I can't find it now, but earlier today I was reading an article about how men have a harder time gaining legitimacy in the workplace after returning from being a stay-at-home-parent than women do.

3894 · 08-01-2007, 05:51 PM

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Any other ideas? I could do great papers on either of those subjects, but I'm wondering if there's another topic out there that would give it a little more oomph, or at least make it a little less mainstream.

How long does the paper need to be?

blueerica · 08-01-2007, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 3894

How long does the paper need to be?

Just a few pages. Nothing too long...

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Originally Posted by CP

Regarding "throwing like a girl", remember that the pendulum is working it's way the other way in some respects. Men are supposedly unempathic, forget anniversaries, care only about sports, dress like slobs, unhygenic, have no sense of taste or class, etc etc, and if a woman has any of these "negative" aspects they're told they're "just like a man".

I've always considered myself very fortunate that a good portion of my friends don't require an adherence to one stereo type or another.

One of the topics I had considered was the male taboo of displaying emotion... how little boys are told not to cry. It always seemed strange to me, and yet "boys don't cry" is so ingrained into our culture. Boys are told to "toughen up." Why?

In my experience, some of the most brave people, men and women, have been those who were unafraid - and most importantly, unafraid of their emotions. Not necessarily meaning that the cried all the time, but they were in tune with themselves in such a way that it's not about can or cannot show emotion.

Cadaverous Pallor · 08-01-2007, 07:04 PM

Regarding "throwing like a girl", remember that the pendulum is working it's way the other way in some respects. Men are supposedly unempathic, forget anniversaries, care only about sports, dress like slobs, unhygenic, have no sense of taste or class, etc etc, and if a woman has any of these "negative" aspects they're told they're "just like a man".

scaeagles · 08-01-2007, 07:24 PM

I always tell my son tough doesn't mean you don't get hurt or you don't cry, it means you're willing to keep going and try again.

Gemini Cricket · 08-01-2007, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

I always tell my son tough doesn't mean you don't get hurt or you don't cry, it means you're willing to keep going and try again.

Oh brother! Thank you, Dr. Phil!

I'm joking.

Alex · 08-01-2007, 07:28 PM

I was never discouraged from crying. There just came a point that I didn't any more.

I'm not withholding anything by not having cried* in almost exactly 20 years (I do remember the last time I did), I have just never had any urge to do so and wouldn't stop myself if I did. When my great-grandmother died it was emotionally very difficult for me but I never had any urge to cry that had to be withheld. And same for many other personally sad moments as well as tearjerker movies.

What I hate is that is that for many people you apparently aren't actually sad unless you are crying.

blueerica · 08-01-2007, 07:33 PM

I amended my earlier post, because I don't mean that crying and outward displays are the only way to have emotion - that just wouldn't be true. For me, I guess it's the countless times I heard the boys in the neighborhood I grew up in, and the little boys I see from time to time out and about, being told not to cry after being hurt, or hearing other children slur to a boy that's crying "You're such a giirrrlll!"

scaeagles · 08-01-2007, 07:48 PM

Don't gender stereotypes typically have some sort of basis in fact? Not all certainly, but a lot of them?

For example, isn't it true that men are typically physically stronger than women? I could walk down the street, of course, and find a given woman stronger than a given man, but for the most part, men are stronger.

Aren't women typically more able to multitask than men? Same disclaimer as above.

08-01-2007, 05:18 PM	#1
Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	Yeah, but have your first period and you'll be begging to come back as a boy. __________________ http://bash.org/?top "It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." -- William Randolph Inge
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08-01-2007, 05:24 PM	#2
Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	Damn, I can't find it now, but earlier today I was reading an article about how men have a harder time gaining legitimacy in the workplace after returning from being a stay-at-home-parent than women do. __________________ http://bash.org/?top "It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." -- William Randolph Inge
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08-01-2007, 07:04 PM	#5
Cadaverous Pallor ohhhh baby Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Parental Bliss Posts: 12,364	Regarding "throwing like a girl", remember that the pendulum is working it's way the other way in some respects. Men are supposedly unempathic, forget anniversaries, care only about sports, dress like slobs, unhygenic, have no sense of taste or class, etc etc, and if a woman has any of these "negative" aspects they're told they're "just like a man". __________________ The second star to the right shines in the night for you
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08-01-2007, 07:24 PM	#6
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	I always tell my son tough doesn't mean you don't get hurt or you don't cry, it means you're willing to keep going and try again.
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08-01-2007, 07:28 PM	#8
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	I was never discouraged from crying. There just came a point that I didn't any more. I'm not withholding anything by not having cried* in almost exactly 20 years (I do remember the last time I did), I have just never had any urge to do so and wouldn't stop myself if I did. When my great-grandmother died it was emotionally very difficult for me but I never had any urge to cry that had to be withheld. And same for many other personally sad moments as well as tearjerker movies. What I hate is that is that for many people you apparently aren't actually sad unless you are crying.
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08-01-2007, 07:33 PM	#9
blueerica Nueve Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 6,497	I amended my earlier post, because I don't mean that crying and outward displays are the only way to have emotion - that just wouldn't be true. For me, I guess it's the countless times I heard the boys in the neighborhood I grew up in, and the little boys I see from time to time out and about, being told not to cry after being hurt, or hearing other children slur to a boy that's crying "You're such a giirrrlll!" __________________ Tomorrow is the day for you and me
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08-01-2007, 07:48 PM	#10
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Don't gender stereotypes typically have some sort of basis in fact? Not all certainly, but a lot of them? For example, isn't it true that men are typically physically stronger than women? I could walk down the street, of course, and find a given woman stronger than a given man, but for the most part, men are stronger. Aren't women typically more able to multitask than men? Same disclaimer as above.
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