Miscellaneous Movie Musings - Page 235

LSPoorEeyorick · 08-22-2007, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by AllyOops!

...when too many people go ga-ga over some product, albeit a movie or book (or play, in this case), I'm inclined to automatically not want to like it.

Yes, this is why I didn't watch Buffy until the fourth season. Or Potter until the fourth book came out. Hmm, what is my thing with four? And also why I didn't watch Wicked until last weekend. (So, you win some, you lose some.)

BarTopDancer · 08-22-2007, 04:42 PM

I'll be going to see Halloween in a few weeks.

Was going to see it on opening night but the stupid scary clown mask in the commercial started freaking me out. The movie will now be pre-screened so I can hide during the scary clown mask parts.

Yes, go figure. Blood, guts and slasher doesn't bother me. Clown mask? OH HELL NO. Yet IT is still one of my favorite books and movies

xharryb · 08-22-2007, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by AllyOops!

I have to be honest, and while I know this is unfair on my part, the hoopla surrounding Wicked has soured me. I know it's not right, and I'm not sure why I'm built this way, but when too many people go ga-ga over some product, albeit a movie or book (or play, in this case), I'm inclined to automatically not want to like it. Maybe it's my rebellious streak, but for whatever reason, I just..don't want to be caught up in the hype! It makes absolutely no sense, really. I know that I am being unfairly biased. I might be passing up something that I'd really enjoy! Am I alone? Crazy? Does anybody else find themselves trying to resist something uber popular?

I know people who practically put this play right up there with the Second Coming and it gets a little exhausting. While I don't doubt for a second it's thrilling & entertaining, I just don't..get it. But then again, I've never seen it, so I'm aware I'm totally in the wrong!

I'm exactly the same way. I've not seen Wicked. I've only heard a couple of the songs (and those because they've been butchered by many school choirs). I was never all that excited about it to begin with other than the fabulous original leading ladies, but when it suddenly became HUGE that just made me even less interested.

Cadaverous Pallor · 08-22-2007, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AllyOops!

I have to be honest, and while I know this is unfair on my part, the hoopla surrounding Wicked has soured me.

Total agreement with Ally's entire post. I am so glad that there are a few here who didn't like it! I've heard the music and it didn't impress me at all. I'm also annoyed when they take the evil characters in classic stories and make them out to be good guys. Bleh. At least it wasn't Baum himself doing it, a la Lucas.

Gemini Cricket · 08-22-2007, 05:01 PM

The only thing that drew me to Wicked was the whole "other side of the story" aspect of it. A what if the witch was actually a good person after all, etc. I kinda liked that. But it was dull and boring... like the book actually...
:shrug:

innerSpaceman · 08-22-2007, 05:25 PM

No, that's crap. Might as well have a what-if-every-story-was-exactly-the-opposite-of-what-it-was.

The POINT of (the original) Wicked was to show how the Wicked Witch of the West got to be so damn wicked. There were details about her, and an understanding of her character that made her more likeable ... but at no point did they need to claim that The (Wonderful) Wizard of Oz got it completely wrong.

That sort of contrariness simply for the sake of it can be done with any tale, and I find it both insulting and uninteresting.

Triple Quadruple Quintuplet Bah on the Melting of the Wicked Witch being a ploy that NEVER HAPPENED and Elphaba lives happily ever after. Feh.

I know "Wicked" is still playing at the Pantages ... but the show is so old, it is no longer appropriate for spoiler tags, imo.

€uroMeinke · 08-22-2007, 08:45 PM

I liked wicked the play much more than I enjoyed the book, which got dreadfully boring with faux Oz politics. I thought it a delightful bit of whimsy fun.

The music didn't stick with me, and it had it's awkward moments - but as big Broadway show entertainment goes, this one I actually liked.

innerSpaceman · 08-22-2007, 09:00 PM

Oh, I was completely and utterly charmed and entertained throughout. I don't mean to imply it wasn't a fantastic evening of fun and enjoyable theater. It WAS.

I gladly went to see it a second time.

And, as a matter of fact, I like the songs and have listened to the CD quite a bit (though I'm certainly long over it).

It's really just the essence of what they did to the story that bugs me - and the dissatisfaction with the seemingly less musical, certainly less fun 2nd act - - that just happened to dispose of the book's most interesting episodes.

(There certainly was a whole lot of boring Oh Zee politics, so I find discarding one of the story's main virtues a terrible waste.)

Oh, are we talking about movies? Hmmm, well, when they do finally get around to a movie version of Wicked, I hope they incorporate a bit more of the book when they film the musical.

Prudence · 08-22-2007, 09:06 PM

I haven't seen Wicked because I *liked* the books. Loved the politics. Apparently I'm in the minority. I'm not really in love with what little of the songs I've heard. Actually, I didn't like what I heard.

Gemini Cricket · 08-22-2007, 09:07 PM

While IMing I put Hard Day's Night in my DVD player. God, I love that film. iSm and I bought copies at the Grove. The restored version was $9.99. Amazing price.
I love every inch of this film. Each shot looks like it could be a postcard of some kind. The black and white photography is awesome.
Every time I watch this it's like visiting with an old friend. No wonder every girl in the 60's fell in love with them. They're hot.... except George. Never fancied him.

08-22-2007, 04:42 PM	#2342
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08-22-2007, 05:01 PM	#2345
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	The only thing that drew me to Wicked was the whole "other side of the story" aspect of it. A what if the witch was actually a good person after all, etc. I kinda liked that. But it was dull and boring... like the book actually... :shrug:
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08-22-2007, 05:25 PM	#2346
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	No, that's crap. Might as well have a what-if-every-story-was-exactly-the-opposite-of-what-it-was. The POINT of (the original) Wicked was to show how the Wicked Witch of the West got to be so damn wicked. There were details about her, and an understanding of her character that made her more likeable ... but at no point did they need to claim that The (Wonderful) Wizard of Oz got it completely wrong. That sort of contrariness simply for the sake of it can be done with any tale, and I find it both insulting and uninteresting. Triple Quadruple Quintuplet Bah on the Melting of the Wicked Witch being a ploy that NEVER HAPPENED and Elphaba lives happily ever after. Feh. I know "Wicked" is still playing at the Pantages ... but the show is so old, it is no longer appropriate for spoiler tags, imo.
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08-22-2007, 08:45 PM	#2347
€uroMeinke L'Hédoniste Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: A.S.C.O.T. Posts: 8,671	I liked wicked the play much more than I enjoyed the book, which got dreadfully boring with faux Oz politics. I thought it a delightful bit of whimsy fun. The music didn't stick with me, and it had it's awkward moments - but as big Broadway show entertainment goes, this one I actually liked. __________________ I would believe only in a God that knows how to Dance. Friedrich Nietzsche
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08-22-2007, 09:00 PM	#2348
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Oh, I was completely and utterly charmed and entertained throughout. I don't mean to imply it wasn't a fantastic evening of fun and enjoyable theater. It WAS. I gladly went to see it a second time. And, as a matter of fact, I like the songs and have listened to the CD quite a bit (though I'm certainly long over it). It's really just the essence of what they did to the story that bugs me - and the dissatisfaction with the seemingly less musical, certainly less fun 2nd act - - that just happened to dispose of the book's most interesting episodes. (There certainly was a whole lot of boring Oh Zee politics, so I find discarding one of the story's main virtues a terrible waste.) Oh, are we talking about movies? Hmmm, well, when they do finally get around to a movie version of Wicked, I hope they incorporate a bit more of the book when they film the musical.
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08-22-2007, 09:06 PM	#2349
Prudence Beelzeboobs, Esq. Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Gavel - I haz it Posts: 6,287	I haven't seen Wicked because I liked the books. Loved the politics. Apparently I'm in the minority. I'm not really in love with what little of the songs I've heard. Actually, I didn't like what I heard. __________________ traguna macoities tracorum satis de
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08-22-2007, 09:07 PM	#2350
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	While IMing I put Hard Day's Night in my DVD player. God, I love that film. iSm and I bought copies at the Grove. The restored version was $9.99. Amazing price. I love every inch of this film. Each shot looks like it could be a postcard of some kind. The black and white photography is awesome. Every time I watch this it's like visiting with an old friend. No wonder every girl in the 60's fell in love with them. They're hot.... except George. Never fancied him.
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