Kid suspended for drawing a gun

Gemini Cricket · 08-24-2007, 05:20 PM

CP ~ I went to a private school. Nuns and priests. And yes, they were all like that. I got hit if we did stuff wrong...

How can you possibly say that that nothing has changed from then and now? Nothing Columbine-esque happened when I was in school. Kids weren't packing when I was in school. Maybe the odd bee bee gun or slingshot but not real guns.

You keep bringing up examples and I keep telling you that anything inappropriate that gets turned in to a teacher is fair game. I'm handing this paper to you and it has a gun on it. That's a threat in my book. Especially when it isn't in context with what was written. ie. An illustration of a gun in a creative writing story.

I think we do live in a society of fear. We have this administration to thank for that. But like you said it's the half-assed nature of it that's wrong. Hastily checked bags, extra security one day then it's gone the next... I'd rather people be consistent. At times, I feel it's justified, sometimes I don't. In this case, I'd rather them err in the name of safety. I don't feel that in every case, but in this case I do.

Morrigoon · 08-24-2007, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

I think we do live in a society of fear. We have this administration to thank for that.

No, we have ourselves to thank for that. The potential existed long before hanging chads were a part of the national vernacular.

Gemini Cricket · 08-24-2007, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Morrigoon

No, we have ourselves to thank for that. The potential existed long before hanging chads were a part of the national vernacular.

Of course it did. But this administration exploited it.

Kevy Baby · 08-24-2007, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AllyOops!

Example: Am I going to get suspended at my favorite Board because you guys know now that I'm a gun owner?

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Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

I use Columbine as an example because it was one of the worst events dealing with students and guns.

But is Columbine the EXCEPTION or is it an indicator of a prevalent problem? I think the extremity of the crime served as a bit of a wake up call, but it is still just an aberration (IMO).

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Which means I merely influenced others to do mischief.

I was real good at doing mischief but not getting caught.

SacTown Chronic · 08-24-2007, 06:05 PM

I miss the innocent, carefree days of yesteryear when America knew Hanging Chad only as the male talent in a Linda Lovelace flick. Le sigh.

Cadaverous Pallor · 08-25-2007, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

CP ~ I went to a private school. Nuns and priests. And yes, they were all like that. I got hit if we did stuff wrong...

Then, dude, I love you and all, but I have to say, if that's the model you were shown, then there's no reconciling it, eh?

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How can you possibly say that that nothing has changed from then and now? Nothing Columbine-esque happened when I was in school. Kids weren't packing when I was in school. Maybe the odd bee bee gun or slingshot but not real guns.

So what? It could have happened at any time. The ability for a child to bring a parent's gun to school has always been possible. Are you going to feel differently about schools because of a few aberrations (thanks Kevy for the word), because it actually happened? I, personally, do not. I am not going to let fear change my view of this world. Nothing has changed for me, whether I'm sending a future kid to school or getting on a plane. If it does change in my head, I'm living in fear, and that's not only pointless, it's destructive.

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You keep bringing up examples and I keep telling you that anything inappropriate that gets turned in to a teacher is fair game. I'm handing this paper to you and it has a gun on it. That's a threat in my book. Especially when it isn't in context with what was written. ie. An illustration of a gun in a creative writing story.

I understand that, you have said that over and over, and you still haven't answered my question about where to draw the line. I'm not going to keep repeating myself, and should probably stop posting, as we aren't getting anywhere. If your standard of measure is Catholic private school, I don't expect it to go any further anyway.

Love you Brad.

08-24-2007, 05:20 PM	#1
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	CP ~ I went to a private school. Nuns and priests. And yes, they were all like that. I got hit if we did stuff wrong... How can you possibly say that that nothing has changed from then and now? Nothing Columbine-esque happened when I was in school. Kids weren't packing when I was in school. Maybe the odd bee bee gun or slingshot but not real guns. You keep bringing up examples and I keep telling you that anything inappropriate that gets turned in to a teacher is fair game. I'm handing this paper to you and it has a gun on it. That's a threat in my book. Especially when it isn't in context with what was written. ie. An illustration of a gun in a creative writing story. I think we do live in a society of fear. We have this administration to thank for that. But like you said it's the half-assed nature of it that's wrong. Hastily checked bags, extra security one day then it's gone the next... I'd rather people be consistent. At times, I feel it's justified, sometimes I don't. In this case, I'd rather them err in the name of safety. I don't feel that in every case, but in this case I do.
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SacTown Chronic the myth of the dream Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,217	I miss the innocent, carefree days of yesteryear when America knew Hanging Chad only as the male talent in a Linda Lovelace flick. Le sigh.
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