Ken Burns' The War on PBS ... You like?

Tref · 09-24-2007, 10:04 PM

Or, you no like?

First episode in and I am hooked. I can not take my eyes off the screen and have even re-wound some parts to hear certain stories or facts again.

I enjoyed some of Burns' film, Baseball, though he lost me entirely during Jazz. As much as jazz music is dear to my heart, I could not take the endless blather from all the so-called experts. It was making me sick. I bought the box set, but only for all the invaluable clips.

But The War is good. Ilikeit.

Alex · 09-24-2007, 10:27 PM

I caught about an hour of it over the weekend and it was having the same soporific effect of his other efforts so I stopped.

But I think I internalized the generally dim view of Burns among professional historians when I was getting my BA so I fear I don't give him a fair shake.

NickO'Time · 09-25-2007, 01:45 AM

Most of the documentaries are great. He keeps saying he doesn't want to do another War documentary, but he still continues to surprise and he hinted on the Today show on NBC that he was going to look into one about Vietnam.

Hopefully, I get the chance to see the rest of this one running currently.

Moonliner · 09-25-2007, 06:28 AM

I set it up on the DVR. I watched about half of the first episode yesterday. So far it is interesting enough to keep me watching but my socks are still on my feet.

I do like the way he is capturing the isolationism prevalent in the USA right up until the morning of Dec 7th. I know FDR had been doing all he could to help the Allies prior to Pearl Harbor. I wonder if Pearl Harbor was in some small measure a relief for FDR in that after it he could bring the full weight of the United States to bear on the war in Europe.

Alex · 09-25-2007, 06:36 AM

He probably could only hope. If Hitler hadn't declared war on us in support of Japan he'd probably have found it very difficult (politically) to continue providing extensive material support to Europe while fighting a war with Japan.

Actually keeping that promise with Japan, at least while he was still fighting an eastern front with Russia is probably the stupidest mistake Hitler made.

Moonliner · 09-25-2007, 06:50 AM

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He probably could only hope. If Hitler hadn't declared war on us in support of Japan he'd probably have found it very difficult (politically) to continue providing extensive material support to Europe while fighting a war with Japan.

Actually keeping that promise with Japan, at least while he was still fighting an eastern front with Russia is probably the stupidest mistake Hitler made.

I'd have to go with "The Eastern Front" itself being his stupidest mistake. Had Hitler been able to share his sandbox with Stalin things would have worked out very differently but of course that's the problem with megalomaniacs they just can't stand to have another kid in the sandbox no matter how big it is.

Stan4dSteph · 09-25-2007, 07:22 AM

It's a great series. I'm really enjoying the personal histories that are being shared, including the woman who was in an internment camp in the Philippines. It's a fascinating parallel to the stories from the Japanese-Americans who were interned in the United States.

I keep thinking I might catch a glimpse of my grandfather in some of the footage. He was a gunner with the 446th bomb group. They flew in B-24s. He fought over North Africa as well as France and Germany.

Snowflake · 09-25-2007, 07:54 AM

I missed episode 1, and caught most of last night's episode. I found it interesting and engrossing. I will be watching more.

My dad served in the Pacific on an aircraft carrier and had a 20 year Navy career. I wish he'd lived long enough to tell me some stories.

I've been meaning to watch the Civil War for years......

DreadPirateRoberts · 09-25-2007, 07:59 AM

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I've been meaning to watch the Civil War for years......

I've got that on DVD, it's good.

innerSpaceman · 09-25-2007, 08:20 AM

I'm gonna wait for the DVDs. I've got zero time in my life right now to watch anything. I'd really be interested in this, but now's not the time.

How long till the series is out on disc, d'ya think?

09-24-2007, 10:04 PM	#1
Tref Not Tref Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,188	Ken Burns' The War on PBS ... You like? Or, you no like? First episode in and I am hooked. I can not take my eyes off the screen and have even re-wound some parts to hear certain stories or facts again. I enjoyed some of Burns' film, Baseball, though he lost me entirely during Jazz. As much as jazz music is dear to my heart, I could not take the endless blather from all the so-called experts. It was making me sick. I bought the box set, but only for all the invaluable clips. But The War is good. Ilikeit. __________________ Tref3.0 Listen in aural 3-D to Pop's muzak! (New songs added semi-bi-daily) j & j Did you know that Emas eht yltcaxe is exactly the same spelled backwards?!
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09-24-2007, 10:27 PM	#2
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	I caught about an hour of it over the weekend and it was having the same soporific effect of his other efforts so I stopped. But I think I internalized the generally dim view of Burns among professional historians when I was getting my BA so I fear I don't give him a fair shake.
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09-25-2007, 01:45 AM	#3
NickO'Time Missed it by that much.. Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 678	Most of the documentaries are great. He keeps saying he doesn't want to do another War documentary, but he still continues to surprise and he hinted on the Today show on NBC that he was going to look into one about Vietnam. Hopefully, I get the chance to see the rest of this one running currently. __________________ Yeah, right.
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09-25-2007, 06:28 AM	#4
Moonliner 8/30/14 - Disneyland -10k or Bust. Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 9,022	I set it up on the DVR. I watched about half of the first episode yesterday. So far it is interesting enough to keep me watching but my socks are still on my feet. I do like the way he is capturing the isolationism prevalent in the USA right up until the morning of Dec 7th. I know FDR had been doing all he could to help the Allies prior to Pearl Harbor. I wonder if Pearl Harbor was in some small measure a relief for FDR in that after it he could bring the full weight of the United States to bear on the war in Europe. __________________ - Taking it one step at a time.
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09-25-2007, 06:36 AM	#5
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	He probably could only hope. If Hitler hadn't declared war on us in support of Japan he'd probably have found it very difficult (politically) to continue providing extensive material support to Europe while fighting a war with Japan. Actually keeping that promise with Japan, at least while he was still fighting an eastern front with Russia is probably the stupidest mistake Hitler made.
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09-25-2007, 07:22 AM	#7
Stan4dSteph Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: East Bay Area, CA Posts: 3,156	It's a great series. I'm really enjoying the personal histories that are being shared, including the woman who was in an internment camp in the Philippines. It's a fascinating parallel to the stories from the Japanese-Americans who were interned in the United States. I keep thinking I might catch a glimpse of my grandfather in some of the footage. He was a gunner with the 446th bomb group. They flew in B-24s. He fought over North Africa as well as France and Germany.
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09-25-2007, 07:54 AM	#8
Snowflake lost in the fog Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Francisco Posts: 7,831	I missed episode 1, and caught most of last night's episode. I found it interesting and engrossing. I will be watching more. My dad served in the Pacific on an aircraft carrier and had a 20 year Navy career. I wish he'd lived long enough to tell me some stories. I've been meaning to watch the Civil War for years...... __________________ Be yourself; everyone else is already taken. - Oscar Wilde
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09-25-2007, 08:20 AM	#10
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	I'm gonna wait for the DVDs. I've got zero time in my life right now to watch anything. I'd really be interested in this, but now's not the time. How long till the series is out on disc, d'ya think?
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