The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux)

[Alex]

It is also interesting that the people now saying "yes it is warming but it isn't caused by man" are generally the people who a decade ago were saying "no, it isn't warming."

I expect as evidence continues to come in that the next step will be "yes, we're contributing to warming but it is a very small amount" followed by "yes we're causing global warming but that actually makes things better."

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by Alex

It is also interesting that the people now saying "yes it is warming but it isn't caused by man" are generally the people who a decade ago were saying "no, it isn't warming."

I find the people who now say "we are definately experiencing global warming" but used to say "we need to stop polluting the planet lest we bring on another Ice Age" far more interesting.

[Alex]

Originally Posted by sleepyjeff

I find the people who now say "we are definately experiencing global warming" but used to say "we need to stop polluting the planet lest we bring on another Ice Age" far more interesting.

Yes, because a Newsweek article overstating early theorizing of some scientists with interesting ideas is the same thing as the overwhelming consensus that the earth is warming and the very strong evidence that humanity is playing a role.

Wrong theories are proposed all of the time, and they generally eventually get superceded as new evidence comes in. But this one in particular is a case of trying to have it both ways. A small minority of scientists today holding putting forward theories out of odds with general acceptable theory and with minimal supporting evidence are held up as evidence of debate and somehow accepted as more solid that then mainstream stuff. Simultaneously you exaggerate the general acceptance of fringe theories from 30 years ago and hold it up as proof of what goofs scientists can be.

Now that we've covered "global warming denial canards" for 100, 200, and 300, would anybody like to try for a Daily Double?

And I left Vancouver because there isn't a good university there. If I could have that local climate back I would in a heartbeat.

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by Alex

............ followed by "yes we're causing global warming but that actually makes things better."

C'mon, you and Scaeagles both left Vantucky for warmer climes for a reason.