Lounge of Tomorrow

€uromeinke, FEJ. and Ghoulish Delight RULE!!! NA abides.  


Go Back   Lounge of Tomorrow > A.S.C.O.T > Lounge Lizard
Swank Swag
FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts Clear Unread

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 03-16-2005, 01:00 PM   #1
scaeagles
I LIKE!
 
scaeagles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 7,819
scaeagles is the epitome of coolscaeagles is the epitome of coolscaeagles is the epitome of coolscaeagles is the epitome of coolscaeagles is the epitome of coolscaeagles is the epitome of coolscaeagles is the epitome of coolscaeagles is the epitome of coolscaeagles is the epitome of coolscaeagles is the epitome of coolscaeagles is the epitome of cool
Speculation only, of course.....

I wonder if the judge is an abortion advocate. I do not know what was within his purview regarding the charges, but it could be that he is unwilling personally to recognize the unborn child as a victim, and therefore would not allow Scott's parents to testify.

I wonder if this ruling will result in charges brought up by a prospective father against a woman who aborts his child. While a different issue completely, either an unborn child can be murdered or an unborn child cannot. A conviction for murdering an unborn child would certainly lay ground for such a case. Food for thought.

Certainly cause for appeal, as if they weren't automatic anyway.
scaeagles is offline   Submit to Quotes Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2005, 01:18 PM   #2
SacTown Chronic
the myth of the dream
 
SacTown Chronic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,217
SacTown Chronic is the epitome of coolSacTown Chronic is the epitome of coolSacTown Chronic is the epitome of coolSacTown Chronic is the epitome of coolSacTown Chronic is the epitome of coolSacTown Chronic is the epitome of coolSacTown Chronic is the epitome of coolSacTown Chronic is the epitome of coolSacTown Chronic is the epitome of coolSacTown Chronic is the epitome of coolSacTown Chronic is the epitome of cool
Quote:
Originally Posted by scaeagles
Speculation only, of course.....

I wonder if the judge is an abortion advocate. I do not know what was within his purview regarding the charges, but it could be that he is unwilling personally to recognize the unborn child as a victim, and therefore would not allow Scott's parents to testify.
If that were the issue, I'm sure the judge would have found a way to overthrow the death penalty sentence. The death penalty in California requires murder with special circumstances. In this case the special circumstance was the planning and murder of two people. The murder of Laci alone would not have been enough cause for sentencing Scott to death.
__________________
Is it the fingers, or the brain that you're teaching a lesson?
SacTown Chronic is offline   Submit to Quotes Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2005, 01:19 PM   #3
Ghoulish Delight
I Floop the Pig
 
Ghoulish Delight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Alternative Swankstyle
Posts: 19,348
Ghoulish Delight is the epitome of coolGhoulish Delight is the epitome of coolGhoulish Delight is the epitome of coolGhoulish Delight is the epitome of coolGhoulish Delight is the epitome of coolGhoulish Delight is the epitome of coolGhoulish Delight is the epitome of coolGhoulish Delight is the epitome of coolGhoulish Delight is the epitome of coolGhoulish Delight is the epitome of coolGhoulish Delight is the epitome of cool
Send a message via AIM to Ghoulish Delight Send a message via Yahoo to Ghoulish Delight
Quote:
Originally Posted by scaeagles
While a different issue completely, either an unborn child can be murdered or an unborn child cannot.
Funny, would you use the same argument against the death penalty (i.e., either a person can be murdered or not). At which, point, of course, you start to think, "But the death penalty isn't murder, blah blah blah". But, of course, that's my point. EVEN if there's agreement that an unborn child is a life, the termination of a life does not equal murder every time. You can't make a sweeping generalization like that. Context matters. State executioners aren't arrested for murder, soldeirs in battle aren't arrested for murder, doctors pulling the plug on brain-dead patients aren't arrested for murder. It just ain't that simple.

I DON'T want to get into an abortion discussion. That's kinda my point. While tangentially related, it's not a simple conclusion of, "he was convicted of murdering the unborn child, therefor abortion is murder." Totally different context.
__________________
'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.'
-TJ

Ghoulish Delight is offline   Submit to Quotes Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2005, 06:16 PM   #4
jdramj
Trying to sleep
 
jdramj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 201
jdramj is coming on cooljdramj is coming on cooljdramj is coming on cooljdramj is coming on cool
Quote:
Originally Posted by scaeagles
Speculation only, of course.....

I wonder if the judge is an abortion advocate. I do not know what was within his purview regarding the charges, but it could be that he is unwilling personally to recognize the unborn child as a victim, and therefore would not allow Scott's parents to testify.

I wonder if this ruling will result in charges brought up by a prospective father against a woman who aborts his child. While a different issue completely, either an unborn child can be murdered or an unborn child cannot. A conviction for murdering an unborn child would certainly lay ground for such a case. Food for thought.

Certainly cause for appeal, as if they weren't automatic anyway.
Not that I disagree with you and I'm sure this is just a typo...."allowing Scott's parents to "testify"."?

I'm sure there is no malice on the Judge's part in only letting one side speak, especially since it was allowed only after the sentencing was done, if I read it right. Besides, Scott was only charged with 2nd degree murder of the unborn child, as it was different for Laci.
jdramj is offline   Submit to Quotes Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 06:04 AM.


Lunarpages.com Web Hosting

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.