No matter your politics, watch this.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

I don't care what your position is, I think everyone needs to watch this entire video. I know it's long. I don't post in this forum often and now I feel I need to.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21644133/from/ET/

He really has put it out there. My God, can our country recover from this heinous period, and will history judge this entire presidency for what it really is? I'm almost in tears. I can't believe that I'm alive for this...that it's happening in my country...that I ignore it and hope it'll go away.

[innerSpaceman]

Is this how the Germans felt in the 30's?

[DreadPirateRoberts]

If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide.


-- Abraham Lincoln

[JWBear]

If he were here, Lincoln would so whup Bush's ass.

[innerSpaceman]

Um, Lincoln suspended habeaus corpus and all sorts of civil rights in the name of national security. He may have talked a good game (and I admire him greatly) ... but he's hardly the antidote to the Bush presidency of constitutional shredding.

[JWBear]

He still would have kicked his ass.

[NickO'Time]

I'm disgusted, Mr Olberman said it all so well.

[Sub la Goon]

The Supreme Court told Lincoln he couldn't suspend Habeas Corpus.

Bush wants to rig the AG and Supreme Court to let him off the hook.

[NirvanaMan]

Maybe I'm just numb to the tone in general nowadays, but listening to this sounds like nothing more than inflammatory rhetoric to me. While some good points are made I'm sure, I tend to tune it out just as I did the Rush Limbaugh's and the like during the "criminal" Clinton presidency, as the right-wing types asserted. It has more to do with the tone and choice of language for me personally.

Belittling accomplished persons (regardless of your opinion of their politics) such as the former Attorney General with accusations of non-functioning brains does little to bolster ones point.

Nanny nanny poo poo is all I hear.

But that's just me. I know this kind of stuff works for a lot of people. Ironic I suppose, as I tend to be incredibly passionate about things.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by NirvanaMan

Maybe I'm just numb to the tone in general nowadays, but listening to this sounds like nothing more than inflammatory rhetoric to me. While some good points are made I'm sure, I tend to tune it out just as I did the Rush Limbaugh's and the like during the "criminal" Clinton presidency, as the right-wing types asserted. It has more to do with the tone and choice of language for me personally.

In general I agree, but at some point the evidence that this administration is willfully and maliciously abusing its privilege piled up beyond a point where I care much for being civil about it. I think Olbermann's final point in this rant said it best. There really are only two possibilities at this point. Either Bush really is dumb enough to not be aware of what he's doing, or he is purposefully and arguably criminally architecting some seriously disgusting abuses of power. I'm thrilled with neither option and it's about time people start speaking up. Here we have yet another piece of evidence demonstrating the Presidents willingness to deliberately pick and choose his own version of reality to fit his pre-conceived objectives, truth be damned. This isn't one isolated incident, it's a repeated, blatant pattern underscored by his maniacal efforts to prevent all oversight and accountability in a government that's supposed to be built on oversight and accountability.

And then he has the gaul to send American citizens to fight and die in the name of his vaunted democratic ideals that he shows no practical signs of adhering to. And then he wonders why so many people doubt his intentions.