Mitt Romney and Mormonism

[Kevy Baby]

Originally Posted by LSPoorEeyorick

I do like Richard Jeni, but I'm still not sure why the things he said about Democrats are so horrible.

So are you saying that what he said in that routine (I assuming that you watched it and are commenting on it) about Republicans is true but what he said about Democrats is horrible?

Originally Posted by LSPoorEeyorick

Though I'm sure you don't agree, it really is OK for me to agree with one set of principles over another. And to keep doing it consistently.

I am not saying that it is not okay to have a set of principles. Instead, I believe that:

1. NO political party will ever stand for all that I believe in. And I believe that this holds true for most everyone else as well.
2. I believe that both of the major political parties have long ago lost sight of what there core values are and this is why I cannot support either one of them. Yes, I lean towards the Right (primarily because of their historic fiscal issues), but strongly disagree with many of their societal stances (gay marriage, abortion, etc.). But I cannot side with the Democrats either because historically, they want to take and spend too much of my money.
3. At elections, I review (as best I can) EACH candidate to see what they want to do in office, review their track record against that and see which I feel has the best chance of doing what I believe to be right. Whether they are Democrat or Republican usually has little bearing in and of itself.

[Kevy Baby]

Originally Posted by mousepod

I enjoyed Jeni, but I was always more of a Bill Hicks fan (remember, in this audio clip he's talking about Bush, Sr. and the first gulf war).

...and here's part two of the clip.

Maybe we should make decisions for president based on comedian's sketches.

[mousepod]

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

Maybe we should make decisions for president based on comedian's sketches.

...but then how would we decide which comedian is right?

[Alex]

Ask the politicians.

[€uroMeinke]

Mormons seem no ore cultish to me than Catholics or pagans, everyone's got their rituals and I'm cool with that.

What bothers me more than religion is people who are dogmatic about their beliefs, and dogmatic atheists are as hard for me to stomach as evangelists. The more people talk about their religious beliefs the less likely I would vote for them

I do confess that I would have a very hard time to vote for anyone who holds a position in a religion. Anyone who is an ordained minister is an automatic no for me.

As for secret societies, I confess a certain fascination for those and would like to create my own some day.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by €uroMeinke

As for secret societies, I confess a certain fascination for those and would like to create my own some day.

How do we know you haven't already?

[blueerica]

I especially enjoy these comments along with €'s avatar. He looks so contemplative in that picture.

(And, I still love my € button. That may have been worth the price of my laptop, alone.)

[Snowflake]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

How do we know you haven't already?

Shhh, it's a secret

[wendybeth]

I'm not voting for him until he teaches me the secret Temple handshake and code.


Actually, my MIL is Mormon, and since we share a house I get some up close and personal interactions with them. By and large nice group, but if you aren't with them you are not one of them. You get invited to bring presents to wedding receptions, but never the weddings. You are actually left out of a lot of things. And, apologies to PB, but they most definitely do subjugate their womenfolk. Nothing new in religious societies, but it is there, and pervasive. Maybe men don't notice it as much, but I can tell you the women certainly do. Still, I would vote for Romney, if he believed in anything I did politics-wise.

[NirvanaMan]

That's The Secret to you.