Christian groups slam Golden Compass

[Tref]

Originally Posted by Chernabog

Frankly, the Christians who are protesting this movie are being idiots considering the movie takes out the heavy-handedness of the books (I mean, why not SEE a movie first, THEN protest it)..

I mean, god forbid someone actually hear different viewpoints or think for themselves. I believe that people who question their religion and then come to similar conclusions of their religion (or spiritual beliefs) come out that much stronger in their faith. How is it that Mother Theresa questions her belief in God, making her a stronger person of faith in the eyes of the Church, and yet when a child hears a viewpoint that questions the belief in God or organized religion, it is evil?

Idiots? That seems a tad strong, what? The books have a clear anti-Catholic bent -- no one, including the author, would argue that point, so does it not behoove the Catholic Church to defend itself against a sugar coated tome that propagates atheism at the church's expense? I say, absolutely. An attack is an attack no matter how subtle or discreet.

I won't be seeing it but not necessarily because of its content. I am just tired of CGI animals and fantasy movies. They are starting to look all alike.

[Chernabog]

Originally Posted by Tref

Idiots? That seems a tad strong, what?

Yeah, I think people are idiots for protesting a movie that they not only haven't seen, but haven't even read whether the things they're protesting in the source material are even in the movie.

I mean, why not protest John Cusak's latest movie, Martian Child? The book's about gay parenting, and you all know where THAT leads. Blasphemy, pedophilia, and eventually, Nazi-riding dinosaurs.

Oh wait, you mean they took that gay stuff out of the movie? Well so what, people might like the movie, then read the book, and THEN they'll read about that gay parenting stuff, and since gay parenting is wrong and not a topic open for discussion, we need to protest it anway!

But it wasn't the Christians who protested, it was actually people in the gay community who were annoyed when the gay themes were removed.

Perhaps it's the atheists who should be protesting "The Golden Compass".

[Tref]

Originally Posted by Chernabog

Yeah, I think people are idiots for protesting a movie that they not only haven't seen, but haven't even read whether the things they're protesting in the source material are even in the movie.

Say what? I am not allowed to protest morally objectionable films simply because I did not pay money to see them? Let's take this to the extreme, shall we? Should I not wage battle against child pornography simply because I have not seen any? Methinks your argument would bode well with theater operators! (Your last name wouldn't happen to be Mann, would it?)

Anyway, you don't have to eat a whole apple to know its bad, Chernabog.

Idiots -- onward, march!

[Chernabog]

Originally Posted by Tref

Say what? I am not allowed to protest morally objectionable films simply because I did not pay money to see them? Let's take this to the extreme, shall we? Should I not wage battle against child pornography simply because I have not seen any? Methinks your argument would bode well with theater operators! (Your last name wouldn't happen to be Mann, would it?)

Anyway, you don't have to eat a whole apple to know its bad, Chernabog.

Idiots -- onward, march!

Maybe I should hand you some extra lynchin' rope for that march, because your strawman is losing its stuffing.

We are not talking about child pornography, we are talking about themes that may or may not exist in a movie -- but you wouldn't know that because you haven't seen it (and, FYI reviews of the film indicate that those themes aren't there). I mean, at the very LEAST read some detailed reviews and analysis before deciding whether to protest. I tried to point out that although you may have objections to the source material, that doesn't mean it was translated to screen in that same way.

But yes, we can all agree that child pornography is bad stuff. I guess you've won there.

Edit: OK so perhaps "idiots" was too strong a word. I'll just say "fundamentally misguided" and leave it at that.