Nontroversy of the week. - Page 3

Strangler Lewis · 12-27-2007, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morrigoon

Ron Paul, a Republican, is quoting Sinclair Lewis, whose most famous work is a piece of communist propaganda masquerading as muckraking?

This election is getting too damn weird for me.

Do you mean Sinclair "Strangler" Lewis or Upton Sinclair?

Morrigoon · 12-27-2007, 11:06 AM

Ah, bloody hell, you're right... I was mixing him up with Upton Sinclair.

*blush*

Gemini Cricket · 12-27-2007, 11:16 AM

There's also a subliminal Jesus fish in the Jack in the Box logo. Or so it is rumored...

Ghoulish Delight · 12-27-2007, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

There's also a subliminal Jesus fish in the Jack in the Box logo. Or so it is rumored...

I blame Mike Huckabee.

scaeagles · 12-27-2007, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morrigoon

Ron Paul, a Republican

In name only. Ron Paul is a Libertarian who joined the Republicans to get a broader platform to be heard. I believe once he doesn't get the Republican nomination he will run as a Libertarian, and that has been his plan all along.

innerSpaceman · 12-27-2007, 12:04 PM

He is what a Republican is supposed to be. That they all left his brand of Republicanism long behind for a frenzy of anti-Republican tawdriness and unprincipled orgy does not make Paul the non-Republican.

And yes, he hadn't seen the ad when he make his Sinclair analogy. (Sorry, I misspoke, he was talking about mixing politics and religion, not about subliminal messages ... be he was specifically speaking in generalities in response to the allegations against Huckabee, and had not seen the ad in question. He made that clear on Meet the Press a day or so later.)

BTW, I've never admired a Republican so much. Not even McCain.

€uroMeinke · 12-27-2007, 12:05 PM

Not even Lincoln?

Alex · 12-27-2007, 12:24 PM

The Republican Party has never been a libertarian party. He is, fiscally, what a Republican is supposed to be but the party has never really been libertarian.

I'm actually surprised by the number of liberal/progressive people I see who say they like what Ron Paul has to say since he is pretty strongly in opposition to the idea of progressive government. I think many like his "out of Iraq now" position but would be aghast at his "let the Sudanese kill each other as they wish" position. Or his anti-affirmative action positions. Or that while he wouldn't get rid of it since it is already there, he would oppose Social Security if it were presented today.

His one big lapse from "pure" Libertarianism is in opposition to free trade and open borders.

innerSpaceman · 12-27-2007, 01:00 PM

I think perhaps its his support for abolition of the income tax that makes me love him most. I'd put up with a lot of non-progressiveness to be rid of that unlawful, unconsitutional, medieval theft by our overlords.

JWBear · 12-27-2007, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by €uroMeinke

Not even Lincoln?

I'm rather partial to Teddy Roosevelt myself. Now there was a great Republican!

12-27-2007, 11:06 AM	#22
Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	Ah, bloody hell, you're right... I was mixing him up with Upton Sinclair. blush __________________ http://bash.org/?top "It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." -- William Randolph Inge
	Submit to Quotes

12-27-2007, 11:16 AM	#23
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	There's also a subliminal Jesus fish in the Jack in the Box logo. Or so it is rumored...
	Submit to Quotes

12-27-2007, 12:04 PM	#26
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	He is what a Republican is supposed to be. That they all left his brand of Republicanism long behind for a frenzy of anti-Republican tawdriness and unprincipled orgy does not make Paul the non-Republican. And yes, he hadn't seen the ad when he make his Sinclair analogy. (Sorry, I misspoke, he was talking about mixing politics and religion, not about subliminal messages ... be he was specifically speaking in generalities in response to the allegations against Huckabee, and had not seen the ad in question. He made that clear on Meet the Press a day or so later.) BTW, I've never admired a Republican so much. Not even McCain.
	Submit to Quotes

12-27-2007, 12:05 PM	#27
€uroMeinke L'Hédoniste Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: A.S.C.O.T. Posts: 8,671	Not even Lincoln? __________________ I would believe only in a God that knows how to Dance. Friedrich Nietzsche
	Submit to Quotes

12-27-2007, 12:24 PM	#28
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	The Republican Party has never been a libertarian party. He is, fiscally, what a Republican is supposed to be but the party has never really been libertarian. I'm actually surprised by the number of liberal/progressive people I see who say they like what Ron Paul has to say since he is pretty strongly in opposition to the idea of progressive government. I think many like his "out of Iraq now" position but would be aghast at his "let the Sudanese kill each other as they wish" position. Or his anti-affirmative action positions. Or that while he wouldn't get rid of it since it is already there, he would oppose Social Security if it were presented today. His one big lapse from "pure" Libertarianism is in opposition to free trade and open borders.
	Submit to Quotes

12-27-2007, 01:00 PM	#29
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	I think perhaps its his support for abolition of the income tax that makes me love him most. I'd put up with a lot of non-progressiveness to be rid of that unlawful, unconsitutional, medieval theft by our overlords.
	Submit to Quotes