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Old 12-29-2007, 09:16 PM   #1
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Ok, I see why you don't like them, but those issues don't disqualify them as conservatives, IMHO.

As for the OP, if I were in Iowa, I'd be grumbling the same as I am now about how the two party system has crippled us. The party I am a member of isn't even worth bothering with due to their limited fanbase. I'd also be sort of rooting for Obama, though I'm undereducated on all the candidates, due to crushing depression regarding politics and the futility of human history/future.
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Old 12-29-2007, 09:22 PM   #2
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To me, tax and spend big government is not conservatism. This is how I see Huckabee. Failing to put one of the only constitutionally mandated requirements of the federal government, to protect and defend the the borders of the US, also disqualifies one from being a conservative. Limiting free speech (which is how I view campaign finance reform) disqualifies one as a conservative.
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Old 12-29-2007, 11:33 PM   #3
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To me, tax and spend big government is not conservatism. This is how I see Huckabee. Failing to put one of the only constitutionally mandated requirements of the federal government, to protect and defend the the borders of the US, also disqualifies one from being a conservative. Limiting free speech (which is how I view campaign finance reform) disqualifies one as a conservative.
I would like to hear the names of all these conservatives who do not "tax and spend" on programs of their own choosing. Did all the conservatives who were involved in congress over the years but did not build walls on our borders disqualify themselves? As for free speech....man, I don't even know where to start with that one.
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Old 12-29-2007, 10:53 PM   #4
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I'd vote for Richardson because I've got money on him.
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Old 12-30-2007, 12:55 AM   #5
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I'd vote for Richardson because I've got money on him.

Me too.....I've 350 to 1 odds and $20 that could turn into $7,000 if he wins the whole thing

Yeah, I know.....I threw $20 away
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Old 12-30-2007, 01:13 AM   #6
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In reality I wouldn't participate if I lived in Iowa. First, I'm not a member of any party and therefore don't feel I should take part in selecting a parties nominee (I don't vote in party primaries here in California either). Second, I view the Iowa caucuses as a big old sham that should just crawl into a corner and die.

But at this point in time I would probably go with Barak Obama on the Dem side (I disagree with him on many many issues but I think he'd be a good change of direction if elected) and Ron Paul (I don't actually want him to be president but he injects ideas I like seeing aired and I still don't have a preferred Republican candidate to stand behind so until I do I'll promote the ideas).
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Old 12-30-2007, 11:16 AM   #7
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I still maintain that Obama's lack of experience is his biggest asset.
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Old 12-30-2007, 01:14 PM   #8
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I think Obama's lack of experience can't put us in a worse position than we are already in. Then again I'm not sure anyone would bring us to a worse position than we are already in. Well, sans the other Bush brother.

I know Thompson has experience, I disagree with him on many issues - but i still see him as DA Arthur Branch.
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Old 12-30-2007, 04:32 PM   #9
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I think Obama's lack of experience can't put us in a worse position than we are already in. Then again I'm not sure anyone would bring us to a worse position than we are already in.
This is what I'm thinking, too.
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