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mousepod · 12-31-2007, 04:15 PM

I'm also with CP (and Alex) on this one. The beautiful thing about LoT is that we're a big mutual fan club. We always pull for everyone else's success. While it might not always be apparent in the tone of each and every post here, I ultimately believe that we are a group of weirdos who want the best for our peers here.

I understand CP's reaction to Pru, because it was also my initial response. I've been vicariously appreciating the tribulations of returning to school and ultimately the wonderful graduation, that I felt like the "that's it" post regarding employment was abrupt. Sure, I've read all of the stories about how difficult it is finding a clerkship (is that the right word?), but as a third party observer, I wasn't aware of the "ticking clock" that our heroine was up against with securing a satisfactory position. In retrospect, I understand the reasons that Pru gave, but I still believe that there's a happy ending for the story, and I want our protagonist to see it.

Kevy Baby · 12-31-2007, 04:19 PM

Change cannot be thrust upon someone. There is a time for tough love, and this was not it. The timing was poor.

Pru may need to take another look at where she is at, but it certainly is her choice to make (as to when and if), not someone else's.

I stand by my words.

BarTopDancer · 12-31-2007, 04:35 PM

The fatalist attitude, the giving up before the diploma has even been framed time frame is crazy. We've supported, held up, listened, commiserated with [about crazy classmmates, unfair teachers] for the past few years. Pru doesn't owe us anything. She only has to answer to herself and BT. But it's the martyr attitude that is being portrayed. Poor me. I didn't land a clerkship because I'm [whatever], I didn't get a job and because I didn't get a clerkship I have no way of getting a job attitude is tiring when compounded on top of the negativity that has encompassed the past year and a half or so.

School is hard. It sucks most of the time. Life is hard, life isn't fair and life can suck. But it is what we make of it - and attitude has a lot to do with where we go in life. Going around with a fatalist attitude, expecting the worst from everyone and everything before it even starts to play out can pretty much turn into a self fulfilling prophecy.

You have to be the change you want to see.

Kevy, I respect what you're saying. I doubt anyone here wants to see Pru fail. I bet we all want to see her succeed. We see things from different points of view. Maybe tough love isn't the answer. But cyber hugs and coddling the martyr attitude aren't the answer either.

Perhaps this isn't the most appropriate post for a public forum and if anyone feels the need to give neg mojo then go for it. But like Kevy, I stand by my words.

BarTopDancer · 12-31-2007, 04:36 PM

And in other news.. I'm getting a Wii!!!!!!!!!

WOOHOO!!!!!!!

Disneyphile · 12-31-2007, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

And in other news.. I'm getting a Wii!!!!!!!!!

WOOHOO!!!!!!!

OOoooh!! I want to come over and play!!

Kevy Baby · 12-31-2007, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

There is a pretty jarring chasm between "Yay! I gratuated! I'm a J.D.!" one weekend and then a couple days later "It has been three days since I graduated and I still don't have a top notch job so I'm done, I quit."

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Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

The fatalist attitude, the giving up before the diploma has even been framed time frame is crazy.

Just to clarify: Pru has been job hunting for MUCH longer than a few days.

I know that I had my first job lined up a month before I graduated. Not that that means much in this discussion.

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Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

Perhaps this isn't the most appropriate post for a public forum and if anyone feels the need to give neg mojo then go for it. But like Kevy, I stand by my words.

I hope to heck that we don't start giving negative mojo for posting our opinions. I wouldn't have dreamed of giving negative mojo to CP for her post and I hope that no one gives same to you for your comments.

Kevy Baby · 12-31-2007, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

And in other news.. I'm getting a Wii!!!!!!!!!

Don't forget to flush afterwards

Disneyphile · 12-31-2007, 05:52 PM

Is it time to party yet?

Morrigoon · 12-31-2007, 05:58 PM

Nope... you still have time to prepare bacon

Kevy Baby · 12-31-2007, 06:05 PM

Susan is attempting bacon candy. We'll see if it works.

12-31-2007, 04:15 PM	#16711
mousepod You broke your Ramadar! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,635	I'm also with CP (and Alex) on this one. The beautiful thing about LoT is that we're a big mutual fan club. We always pull for everyone else's success. While it might not always be apparent in the tone of each and every post here, I ultimately believe that we are a group of weirdos who want the best for our peers here. I understand CP's reaction to Pru, because it was also my initial response. I've been vicariously appreciating the tribulations of returning to school and ultimately the wonderful graduation, that I felt like the "that's it" post regarding employment was abrupt. Sure, I've read all of the stories about how difficult it is finding a clerkship (is that the right word?), but as a third party observer, I wasn't aware of the "ticking clock" that our heroine was up against with securing a satisfactory position. In retrospect, I understand the reasons that Pru gave, but I still believe that there's a happy ending for the story, and I want our protagonist to see it. __________________ "Give the public everything you can give them, keep the place as clean as you can keep it, keep it friendly" - Walt Disney
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12-31-2007, 04:19 PM	#16712
Kevy Baby Chowder Head Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Yes Posts: 18,500	Change cannot be thrust upon someone. There is a time for tough love, and this was not it. The timing was poor. Pru may need to take another look at where she is at, but it certainly is her choice to make (as to when and if), not someone else's. I stand by my words. __________________ The thing about quotes on the internet is that you cannot verify their validity. - Abraham Lincoln
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12-31-2007, 04:35 PM	#16713
BarTopDancer Prepping... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Here, there, everywhere Posts: 11,405	The fatalist attitude, the giving up before the diploma has even been framed time frame is crazy. We've supported, held up, listened, commiserated with [about crazy classmmates, unfair teachers] for the past few years. Pru doesn't owe us anything. She only has to answer to herself and BT. But it's the martyr attitude that is being portrayed. Poor me. I didn't land a clerkship because I'm [whatever], I didn't get a job and because I didn't get a clerkship I have no way of getting a job attitude is tiring when compounded on top of the negativity that has encompassed the past year and a half or so. School is hard. It sucks most of the time. Life is hard, life isn't fair and life can suck. But it is what we make of it - and attitude has a lot to do with where we go in life. Going around with a fatalist attitude, expecting the worst from everyone and everything before it even starts to play out can pretty much turn into a self fulfilling prophecy. You have to be the change you want to see. Kevy, I respect what you're saying. I doubt anyone here wants to see Pru fail. I bet we all want to see her succeed. We see things from different points of view. Maybe tough love isn't the answer. But cyber hugs and coddling the martyr attitude aren't the answer either. Perhaps this isn't the most appropriate post for a public forum and if anyone feels the need to give neg mojo then go for it. But like Kevy, I stand by my words. __________________ Spork is the new MacGyver Postcards From My Edge
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12-31-2007, 04:36 PM	#16714
BarTopDancer Prepping... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Here, there, everywhere Posts: 11,405	And in other news.. I'm getting a Wii!!!!!!!!! WOOHOO!!!!!!! __________________ Spork is the new MacGyver Postcards From My Edge
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12-31-2007, 05:52 PM	#16718
Disneyphile SQUIRREL! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: On the curbside. Posts: 5,098	Is it time to party yet?
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12-31-2007, 05:58 PM	#16719
Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	Nope... you still have time to prepare bacon __________________ http://bash.org/?top "It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." -- William Randolph Inge
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12-31-2007, 06:05 PM	#16720
Kevy Baby Chowder Head Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Yes Posts: 18,500	Susan is attempting bacon candy. We'll see if it works. __________________ The thing about quotes on the internet is that you cannot verify their validity. - Abraham Lincoln
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