The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux)

[scaeagles]

I find this whole Obama drug thing very interesting. I honestly do not know why the Hillary campaign is taking heat for this. Seriously. I can recall the whole GW Bush DUI thing released immediately before the election and that was fine.

I'm no fan of either, obviously....but isn't all fair in politics? Why shouldn't illegal drug usage (regardless of whether one feels drug usage should be illegal) be an issue? And if it isn't a big deal, why is the Obama campaign raising such a stink about it being discussed?

"It's a deliberate attempt to sabotage the campaign" are the the quotes I read from Obama staffers. Well, duh! It's freakin' primary time! Get over it and quit your whining.

[Alex]

Just like making a big stink about something your opponent did that you actually don't care about is part of the game, being all offended that your opponent is doing so, even though you probably expected it, is as well.

Of course, it is amusing because Hillary Clinton was part of one of the all time stupid drug dodges in political history with "I didn't inhale." (Since she is claiming the entirety of Bill Clinton's administration as personal experience I see no reason not to give her credit for the Bill Clinton stupidities as well.)

[Alex]

I can't say I know a damned thing about Mike Gravel, but I'm guessing he won't be elected president being all honest and stuff.

On teaching creationism in schools:

As for creationism in the schools, Gravel says: “Oh God, no. Oh, Jesus. We thought we had made a big advance with the Scopes monkey trial … My God, evolution is a fact, and if these people are disturbed by being the descendants of monkeys and fishes, they’ve got a mental problem. We can’t afford the psychiatric bill for them. That ends the story as far as I’m concerned.”

[JWBear]

I wish people would stop with the "descended from monkeys" crap! Humans and monkeys have a common ancestor. It's like saying I'm a descendant of my cousin! <grumble, grumble, grumble>

[Scrooge McSam]

<rabble rabble rabble>

[innerSpaceman]

I didn't get a 'harumph' out of you!

[Alex]

"Descended from monkeys" is an imprecision that doesn't generally bother me too much since while it is wrong scientifically, in common usage "monkey" is just a catchall word for primates and our common ancestor was certainly some time of primate (and technically, far enough back probably much more monkey-like than ape-like).

[Ghoulish Delight]

Speaking of evolution vs. creationism...

Updated text on evolution released.

Some comments from the other side that are just too easy to poke at...

"One of the greatest scientific evidences that we have is in the holy Bible,"

Great understanding of what science is there, bub.

"It's a detriment (because) if there is no creationism, no God, then children have no responsibility," Drake said. "That's why they go to school and shoot people. Because they've been told there's no accountability."

Are you effing kidding me. "That's why they go to school and shoot people"?! Yeesh, this guy is charged with giving people advice on how to live?

[Alex]

Have I never mentioned mentioned all of the schools I've shot up?

[Ghoulish Delight]

With apologies to Tom

Did you ever see Obama win Iowa? Oh the drama! 'Bama drama tastes of llama. Llama, Obama won!


In case y'all missed the news. I is happy.

Oh, and Huckabee won too, but he doesn't rhyme with llama.