The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux)

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

You always say that and I always disagree completely.

I base it simply on the literally hundreds of quotes from leading dems about the threat Saddam was. Now they say it was due to being duped by faulty intelligence, and while that may be the case, the sentiment of the country in general was to go. Being that Hillary is a poll hound, she would have certainly gone. I think Gore would have as well. I do believe that i have perhaps overstated by saying anyone - that is certainly not true, as Kucinich certainly wouldn't have gone.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

I base it simply on the literally hundreds of quotes from leading dems about the threat Saddam was. Now they say it was due to being duped by faulty intelligence...

Faulty intelligence that was filtered through an administration looking for an excuse. Without Bush in the White House, a VERY different story would have been presented to Congress...if it was presented to Congress at all.

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

I base it simply on the literally hundreds of quotes from leading dems about the threat Saddam was. Now they say it was due to being duped by faulty intelligence, and while that may be the case, the sentiment of the country in general was to go. Being that Hillary is a poll hound, she would have certainly gone. I think Gore would have as well. I do believe that i have perhaps overstated by saying anyone - that is certainly not true, as Kucinich certainly wouldn't have gone.

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Faulty intelligence that was filtered through an administration looking for an excuse. Without Bush in the White House, a VERY different story would have been presented to Congress...if it was presented to Congress at all.

One need only look to Gore(you know, the guy who "won" in 2000). His quotes could not have possibly been "filtered though an administration looking for an excuse" since most of his pro-war statements were made before Bush was even elected.

[SacTown Chronic]

Yes, the Dems who voted for/advocated invading The Iraq are just as responsible as the Bush administration, citizen war supporters, and two-time Bush voters for what has happened. But to say we would have gone in with anyone as president is an astounding bit of revisionist, conscience-clearing nonesense. John McCain would never have linked 9/11 to The Iraq. Al Gore? Never in a kadgillion fvcking years.



sleepy,

Can you provide those quotes*? We went into The Iraq as a direct result of 9/11 (allegedly). I'd love to read Al Gore's clairvoyant, circa 2000, quotes about The Iraq and 9/11/01.



*Noting vaugue about Saddam pre-9/11, please. Every national politician of the last 25 years has had something to say about Saddam. We never go into The Iraq without the 70% support from the masses....and Bush (or Gore) doesn't get that support without lying about Saddam's role in 9/11. It follows then, that the only way we invade The Iraq is through Bush and his merry band of liars.