The Schiavo issue

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Motorboat Cruiser

And with all due respect, my friend, those experiences can also cloud your judgement.

I do understand that this situation hits very close to home to you and I'm sorry for that. It just seems that you have your mind made up that this guy is evil

There is a fine line between influencing and clouding.

I have said I have no proof of it. However, as it does hit close to home, I am perfectly open to that he is not "evil" (your word, not mine), but have stated my opinion as every one else here has.

If you'll note, I have also stated several times in this thread that I have no problem with her dying - just that someone needs to do it rather than forcing her to die slowly of dehydration and making those close to her - her parents, in particular - watch and endure it. That is inhumane and cannot be characterized as anything else.

I will choose to believe the personal accounts that I choose to believe. You can choose to believe others. Odds are we will choose to believe those accounts that are more closely related to our own positions.

One question - why is it that Michael Schiavo has refused to allow newer technology to be used to test her - such as PET and CAT scans or MRIs? A curiosity.

[Disneyphile]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

why is it that Michael Schiavo has refused to allow newer technology to be used to test her - such as PET and CAT scans or MRIs? A curiosity.

Oh, I'm betting because of the money involved..... which he's also claimed he'll donate to charity upon its receipt. If anything, I guess we'll see quite soon if he upholds that promise.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by Disneyphile

Oh, I'm betting because of the money involved..... which he's also claimed he'll donate to charity upon its receipt. If anything, I guess we'll see quite soon if he upholds that promise.

A claim that continues to make no sense considering the millions he's refused over the years.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

A claim that continues to make no sense considering the millions he's refused over the years.

Unless I am mistaken, there has been only one offer to him to take money and walk away, and that was recent. I am open to that I may not be aware of the others.

[Disneyphile]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Unless I am mistaken, there has been only one offer to him to take money and walk away, and that was recent. I am open to that I may not be aware of the others.

Precisely why I rely on my hunches.

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Unless I am mistaken, there has been only one offer to him to take money and walk away, and that was recent. I am open to that I may not be aware of the others.

Here ya go

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...-schiavo_x.htm

Other such offers, including one for $10 million, had already been made and rejected by Michael Schiavo, said his attorney, George Felos

Originally Posted by Disneyphile

And, he obviously didn't support her enough to seek help for her bulemia before it caused this in the first place (wow, there's a supportive spouse - ick).

I don't know that he did try, how do you know he didn't?

You can't force someone into treatment for their eating disorder. Well you can but it won't be effective. They have to want to change and want to stop it. So even if he did try it doesn't mean it worked.

[Disneyphile]

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

You can't force someone into treatment for their eating disorder. Well you can but it won't be effective. They have to want to change and want to stop it. So even if he did try it doesn't mean it worked.

Well, usually eating disorders are caused by low self-esteem issues. For starters, he could have gotten her counseling. And, even showed her how beautiful and sexy she was. Granted, self esteem issues stem from within, and won't go away until the person actually believes it themselves. (The latter again being taken from personal experience - mine. I can't recall how many times I'd feel "miserable" about my size. Now, I know I'm beautiful, and don't need anyone to tell me, since I'm quite happy with just being me. ) And, if she still showed no hope of improving, then he could have had her hospitalized, considering the life-and-death seriousness of eating disorders.

Also, according to a former girlfriend of his, he used to come down on Terri for being "too fat". I don't think that's being very "supportive".

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by Disneyphile

Well, usually eating disorders are caused by low self-esteem issues. For starters, he could have gotten her counseling. And, even showed her how beautiful and sexy she was. Granted, self esteem issues stem from within, and won't go away until the person actually believes it themselves. (The latter again being taken from personal experience - mine. I can't recall how many times I'd feel "miserable" about my size. Now, I know I'm beautiful, and don't need anyone to tell me, since I'm quite happy with just being me. ) And, if she still showed no hope of improving, then he could have had her hospitalized, considering the life-and-death seriousness of eating disorders.

Also, according to a former girlfriend of his, he used to come down on Terri for being "too fat". I don't think that's being very "supportive".

I had a very good friend who had an eating disorder. And she had the most supportative boyfriend. They aren't just caused by low self-esteem issues. There are many other issues that are or could be involved. And to say that he could have hospilitazed her and that would have fixed everything is is just nieve.

We don't know that he didn't get her help. We don't know that she wasn't hospitalized.

[wendybeth]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

A claim that continues to make no sense considering the millions he's refused over the years.

Mr. Schiavo couldn't accept the money, because it was the court that ordered the tube to be removed, a decison based upon his statements that Terri had specifically said she would not want to live that way. (I know, there were several other corroborating statements from his relatives and an old friend). At any rate, he would have to state that perhaps he was wrong, or he lied, or whatever, to nullify the court ruling. He's not about to do that, now is he? He is planning on having her cremated, he refuses all advanced-type scans, etc- why? If he's right, then maybe they will shut up all his detractors. I understand he has plans to have her immediately cremated as well, so no autopsy.

The truth is going to come out on this one, there is no way it's not. I just wish the damned politicians and religious zealots would back off and quit making this an issue of power and control. In my mind, this is simply a case of parents who love their daughter very much, and don't want her to die. Mr. Schiavo may have loved her at one time, but he left the marriage long ago, and he left behind the right to speak as her husband as well.