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Old 01-31-2008, 06:45 PM   #3001
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Old 01-31-2008, 08:19 PM   #3002
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Old 02-03-2008, 11:57 AM   #3003
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Doesn't seem like Romney is completely dead yet - he has a lead (though a slim 38-35 lead) in delegate rich CA, and a national poll shows a 38-38 tie with McCain. There are Rasmussen polls just released today (or at least that I only heard about today).
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Old 02-03-2008, 12:56 PM   #3004
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Doesn't seem like Romney is completely dead yet - he has a lead (though a slim 38-35 lead) in delegate rich CA, and a national poll shows a 38-38 tie with McCain. There are Rasmussen polls just released today (or at least that I only heard about today).
Filed poll says 32-24 McCain as of today. Meanwhile, Obama's shot up to within 2% of Clinton in California, with 18% undecided. Too close to call.
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Old 02-03-2008, 02:21 PM   #3005
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Completely my bad. I misread and the 38-38 tie was in CA. Still what I've read today isn't 34-24 McCain, it's 33-29.

However, the numbers certainly vary. I've seen 38-35 Romney over McCain in CA, 37-33 Romney over McCain in CA, and anywhere from a 4-7 pt McCain national advantage.

Why do I bother to look at polls anyway?
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Old 02-03-2008, 03:49 PM   #3006
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Obama IS energizing young voters

I have seen it, right in my own family.

My daughters (15 and 18) are for Obama. They are actually getting involved. They are organizing a voter registration drive at their high school for the Wisconsin primary and very much looking forward to an Obama event on Tuesday night here (Mr. Wonderful won't be there but whatever).
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Old 02-03-2008, 06:03 PM   #3007
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Why doesn't this surprise me?

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The New York senator has criticized presidential rival Barack Obama for pushing a health plan that would not require universal coverage. Clinton has not always specified the enforcement measures she would embrace, but when pressed on ABC's "This Week," she said: "I think there are a number of mechanisms" that are possible, including "going after people's wages, automatic enrollment.
I love the government forcing the populace to do stuff.
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Old 02-03-2008, 09:46 PM   #3008
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Old 02-03-2008, 10:10 PM   #3009
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Why doesn't this surprise me?



I love the government forcing the populace to do stuff.
You mean like passing a driving test and getting a license and paying registration, those kind of things?

Yes, i get the difference ... the new one is a regulation and tax on simply being alive, while the other is for the privilege of driving.

But make no mistake, driving has become central and irrevocably entangled with my, and millions of others', prosperous american lifestyles. And i don't balk that the government makes me do it.

If this is what it takes to improve healthcare significantly in this country, it will hardly seem more of a sacrifice of freedom to me than a driver's license or hand gun license.
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Old 02-04-2008, 05:01 AM   #3010
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It seems like a better analogy would be that since driving is so important to freedom that everyone should be taxed to provide all with a car and insurance. Afterall, it isn't fair that some people don't have a car or a reliable one. So let's garnish wages and raise taxes to force everyone who doesn't have a car to get one....it's only fair.
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