Super Tuesday

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by Motorboat Cruiser

Thanks.



Well, I can only speak for myself but, a revenge candidate is the furthest thing from my mind and certainly NOT what I want in a candidate. And I don't think that is what the average Democrat wants, at least I truly hope not. I want an effective leader that can get things done, and not waste a moment their time trying to stick it to anyone. There are too many incredibly important issues that need to full attention of the next administration and by that, I don't necessarily mean health care, although I would like to see progress made in that area.

But more important to me is someone who can regain some international respect, which I think Hillary or Obama can, and try to find solutions to the messes abroad and at home. We are coming upon a recession and our military is breaking. Those are two of my biggest concerns, and if health care has to take a backburner to those issues, I will accept that for the time being. And honestly, I think either candidate is going to show up at the Oval Office with so much on their plate that neither are going to be able to give social programs the attention they are professing right now. I just don't see it happening. There is so much to fix right now and prioritization is going to be the key. At least, that's how I see it. And if any democrat were to allow themself to get sidelined with some petty tit-for-tat bullshyt, they are going to raise my ire considerably.

I agree. That's why I can't support Hillary. We need a president who can work with both parties to get America back on track. I just can't see Hillary being that person. The right hate her too much.

[Motorboat Cruiser]

Originally Posted by JWBear

I agree. That's why I can't support Hillary. We need a president who can work with both parties to get America back on track. I just can't see Hillary being that person. The right hate her too much.

Which is what I find puzzling about the hatred of Clinton. In many ways, she is a centrist. Much more so than Obama, I would think. It would seem that, if the right were to get a handle on their visceral hatred of this woman for a moment, they would realize that A) a democrat IS going to win. and B) there is likely a better chance of her working with them, for better or worse. I think that Obama, with a democrat controlled congress is going to potentially make them wish she got the nod.

Then again, perhaps that is why Coulter is supporting her. Either that, or it is reverse psychology, in the sense that by supporting her, they hope others will and they feel that they might actually be able to beat her. Honestly, I don't think they can though.

I found the numbers of votes in each state interesting yesterday. In every state that I saw, democratic voters far outnumbered Republicans. Maybe I'm missing something, but I didn't expect to see that.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by Motorboat Cruiser

A) a democrat IS going to win. and B) there is likely a better chance of her working with them, for better or worse. I think that Obama, with a democrat controlled congress is going to potentially make them wish she got the nod.

I completely disagree. I perceive Hillary to be someone who is more interested in making her opponents look bad in order to gain political advantage than she is in doing the right thing.

[Motorboat Cruiser]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

I completely disagree. I perceive Hillary to be someone who is more interested in making her opponents look bad in order to gain political advantage than she is in doing the right thing.

Interesting. I don't see it that way, obviously. And it seems to me that if she simply does the right thing, as you say, that will completely serve the purpose of making them look bad in order to gain political advantage - without even trying. Sort of a killing two birds with one stone scenario. And hell, after the last eight years, is it even possible to make them look worse?

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by Motorboat Cruiser

And it seems to me that if she simply does the right thing, as you say, that will completely serve the purpose of making them look bad in order to gain political advantage - without even trying.

And that's where I part ways. To me, a vote for Hillary is a vote to continue the divisive "Everything on MY side of the aisle is right, everything on THE OTHER side of the aisle is wrong" politics. I fear her administration is going to be entirely reactionary. "They had their way for 8 years, now we'll have ours!" I just don't see Hillary doing anything but continuing politics as usual, something I despise, no matter how closely my views on the issues align with those in charge.