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[Gemini Cricket]

Analyzing humor is like taking apart a rose to find out where its beauty button is.

[LSPoorEeyorick]

Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

Analyzing humor is like taking apart a rose to find out where its beauty button is.

I disagree. While I don't sit back after every funny movie I watch and deconstruct it, I find it very helpful, as a writer, to understand what makes people laugh. That same film class gave me a basic understanding of what are, to me, the funniest jokes. That humor comes from setting something up so that the audience thinks they know what's coming, and then yanking it out from under them. For a fine example, please refer to just about everything Tref has ever said, particularly his message to Cindy in her birthday podcast from BDBopper.

And while we have little control over the beauty of a rose, humor is man-made. And yes, it's often unexpected, unplanned, unconsciously put out there, and it's wonderful when it is. It isn't, always, so - for instance - Groundlings or Second City or Upright Citizens Brigade classes help people to discover humor kinesthetically... but they're certainly talking about why something is or isn't funny so as to capture and re-capture that firefly.

[Gemini Cricket]

Originally Posted by LSPoorEeyorick

I disagree. While I don't sit back after every funny movie I watch and deconstruct it, I find it very helpful, as a writer, to understand what makes people laugh. That same film class gave me a basic understanding of what are, to me, the funniest jokes. That humor comes from setting something up so that the audience thinks they know what's coming, and then yanking it out from under them. For a fine example, please refer to just about everything Tref has ever said, particularly his message to Cindy in her birthday podcast from BDBopper.

And while we have little control over the beauty of a rose, humor is man-made. And yes, it's often unexpected, unplanned, unconsciously put out there, and it's wonderful when it is. It isn't, always, so - for instance - Groundlings or Second City or Upright Citizens Brigade classes help people to discover humor kinesthetically... but they're certainly talking about why something is or isn't funny so as to capture and re-capture that firefly.

As a writer, I could see that. But hearing a joke and then wondering about it and trying to figure out every nuance of it when one is not a writer or comedian or whatever is too Vulcan for me.
I also believe a sense of humor is innate.

[LSPoorEeyorick]

Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

As a writer, I could see that. But hearing a joke and then wondering about it and trying to figure out every nuance of it when one is not a writer or comedian or whatever is too Vulcan for me.

Well, yeaaaah, but the person who asked the question about drag (3894) is a writer, and the two who replied were a comedian and another writer.

[Gemini Cricket]

Originally Posted by LSPoorEeyorick

Well, yeaaaah, but the person who asked the question about drag (3894) is a writer, and the two who replied were a comedian and another writer.

Understood.
I just find it incredibly boring to dissect humor. I find it pointless.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Originally Posted by 3894

From a theoretical standpoint, are drag queens and drag kings really two sides of the same coin?

I'm guessing that drag kings are mostly politically motivated, whereas drag queens just want to dress like Cher.

While the article at Slate didn't say much about the culture of kinging, the video did show some of the other acts that were there that night. None of them seemed "polictially motivated" to me.

[3894]

Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

While the article at Slate didn't say much about the culture of kinging, the video did show some of the other acts that were there that night. None of them seemed "polictially motivated" to me.

I could have phrased that better. The drag kings seem to be interested in finding out how/if society treats them differently as a man.