New School Prayer - Page 5

SacTown Chronic · 02-08-2008, 06:58 PM

I was a big fan of taint up until 5 minutes ago. Alabama? Ewww!

SacTown Chronic · 02-08-2008, 07:00 PM

Wait, America is a dude with a big wang. I like female taint.

Stupid short term memory loss, I forgot what we were talking about. Taint does that to me sometimes.

Alex · 02-08-2008, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

So America is nothing but a torso?

Yes, we keep our brain in Canada.

Not Afraid · 02-08-2008, 07:08 PM

I just thought we were anencephalic.

blueerica · 02-08-2008, 08:25 PM

Jazz, I guess that's where we agree and where we differ on the topic. I appreciate that they were able to kneel and pray, I just hope (I don't pray, because I'm an atheist

) that there wasn't any pressure to. Just that it was heartfelt, as any form of spirituality should be.

I, too, believe in the same intent of the separation of church and state. I am saddened that others' beliefs were trampled on, wrongly, in the name of said separation (your football example). But I feel that given the facts, the poem is incredibly misleading... particularly to a misinformed public. This is just, as I feel most propagandist literature, etc is (to the left, the right (neither of which do I feel a part)) meant to persuade a certain segment of a population to feel outrage, and perhaps to act on it by whatever means (and by those means, I don't mean the most fringe means).

More clearly, I don't like this poem because it treats the reader as though they don't know any better... and sadly, many people don't. They don't know their rights any better than when their rights have been trampled upon.

Gemini Cricket · 02-08-2008, 08:45 PM

Prayer.
Hmm.
I don't know if I call it actual prayer, but sometimes I find myself talking to a higher power. Kind of like Tevye did in Fiddler on the Roof. Like when I hit my head on a cabinet door in the kitchen, I think "Well, thanks for that, bastard."

To me, and this isn't meant to insult anyone, I find atheism as frustrating as fundamentalist religion. Both are saying they know the definite answer to something. But neither has proof. So, as an agnostic, I say, "I don't know. No one knows. We'll find out (maybe) when we're dead." And move on with life.

€uroMeinke · 02-08-2008, 08:56 PM

I find dogmatic atheists as annoying as dogmatic Christians - but I claim to be an atheist without claiming it as absolute knowledge but rather as an honest assessment of the way I live my life - with the belief that no God exists. I may be wrong, but that's not changing my behavior in any way. Plenty of Christians lead better lives than me, I have no desire to rock that boat as long as I can keep sailing my own.

blueerica · 02-08-2008, 08:57 PM

I often, incorrectly (as I did above for the sake of proving some stupid point), identify myself as an atheist, when I am most truly an agnostic.

I <3 you, GC.

That is all.

Gemini Cricket · 02-08-2008, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by €uroMeinke

I find dogmatic atheists as annoying as dogmatic Christians - but I claim to be an atheist without claiming it as absolute knowledge but rather as an honest assessment of the way I live my life - with the belief that no God exists. I may be wrong, but that's not changing my behavior in any way. Plenty of Christians lead better lives than me, I have no desire to rock that boat as long as I can keep sailing my own.

And in no way am I judging anyone. I hope I didn't come across that way. Just me thinking out loud. And, in fact, it was something that kinda hit me while I was driving to the park one day recently.

And, I love the pic in your sig, Chris. It makes me happy.

blueerica · 02-08-2008, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

And, I love the pic in your sig, Chris. It makes me happy.

Doesn't it, though? It feels happy, yet sneaky at the same time. Me likes.

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blueerica Nueve Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 6,497	Jazz, I guess that's where we agree and where we differ on the topic. I appreciate that they were able to kneel and pray, I just hope (I don't pray, because I'm an atheist ) that there wasn't any pressure to. Just that it was heartfelt, as any form of spirituality should be. I, too, believe in the same intent of the separation of church and state. I am saddened that others' beliefs were trampled on, wrongly, in the name of said separation (your football example). But I feel that given the facts, the poem is incredibly misleading... particularly to a misinformed public. This is just, as I feel most propagandist literature, etc is (to the left, the right (neither of which do I feel a part)) meant to persuade a certain segment of a population to feel outrage, and perhaps to act on it by whatever means (and by those means, I don't mean the most fringe means). More clearly, I don't like this poem because it treats the reader as though they don't know any better... and sadly, many people don't. They don't know their rights any better than when their rights have been trampled upon. __________________ Tomorrow is the day for you and me
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02-08-2008, 08:45 PM	#46
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	Prayer. Hmm. I don't know if I call it actual prayer, but sometimes I find myself talking to a higher power. Kind of like Tevye did in Fiddler on the Roof. Like when I hit my head on a cabinet door in the kitchen, I think "Well, thanks for that, bastard." To me, and this isn't meant to insult anyone, I find atheism as frustrating as fundamentalist religion. Both are saying they know the definite answer to something. But neither has proof. So, as an agnostic, I say, "I don't know. No one knows. We'll find out (maybe) when we're dead." And move on with life.
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02-08-2008, 08:56 PM	#47
€uroMeinke L'Hédoniste Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: A.S.C.O.T. Posts: 8,671	I find dogmatic atheists as annoying as dogmatic Christians - but I claim to be an atheist without claiming it as absolute knowledge but rather as an honest assessment of the way I live my life - with the belief that no God exists. I may be wrong, but that's not changing my behavior in any way. Plenty of Christians lead better lives than me, I have no desire to rock that boat as long as I can keep sailing my own. __________________ I would believe only in a God that knows how to Dance. Friedrich Nietzsche
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02-08-2008, 08:57 PM	#48
blueerica Nueve Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 6,497	I often, incorrectly (as I did above for the sake of proving some stupid point), identify myself as an atheist, when I am most truly an agnostic. I <3 you, GC. That is all. __________________ Tomorrow is the day for you and me
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