Yes, we can.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

I'll shoot both of you, since I linked to Obama's plan in my last post.

Frankly, CP, it's all the same stuff. Truely. "Eliminate tax cuts for the wealthy and give more to the middle class." How does he define the middle class and the wealthy? Is he someone like Gore, who believes that someone who make 250K/year is a millionaire in 4 years?

"Eliminate wasteful spending." OK. I'm all for that. What programs? What's he going to do to stop wasteful spending in education? It sounds from reading his stuff that he plans on a whole lot more money for education.

With most of the things I've read on his site, it basically says tax the wealthy more so we have money to improve the things that are important. He says the tax cuts for the wealthy have cost the country 2.3 trillion dollars, but tax revenues have increased.

Sorry. I do think he's a decent guy - unlike Hillary and McCain - but it's nothing different than the same old same old.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Frankly, CP, it's all the same stuff.

People always complain that presidents get into office and then can't fulfill promises beause they have to deal with congress. To me, if he gets too specific, he'll be even more damned. Appealing to the country at large also takes flexibility.

I know, it sounds wishy washy, but he's got to be electable.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

People always complain that presidents get into office and then can't fulfill promises beause they have to deal with congress. To me, if he gets too specific, he'll be even more damned. Appealing to the country at large also takes flexibility.

I know, it sounds wishy washy, but he's got to be electable.

It seems, then, that your excitement isn't that he has new ideas or something that hasn't been offered by every other dem candidate, your excitement is for his oratory skills and presentation.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

It seems, then, that your excitement isn't that he has new ideas or something that hasn't been offered by every other dem candidate, your excitement is for his oratory skills and presentation.

And his proven willingness to not act like a partisan wag and actually work with all his colleagues to get things done.

Like I said before, there isn't another human being in the world who's specific stances on issues and specific plans of actions are going to precisely match mine. Obama's are as close to mine as anyone's are going to get. That combined with the apparent qualities as a human being he has are more than enough for me.