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Old 02-26-2008, 02:07 PM   #1
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I judge cities by the ratio of Dunkin Donuts to Starbucks - the higher the Dunkin Donuts the less swank the city
Err, Chicago has a LOT of Dunkins.
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Old 02-26-2008, 02:11 PM   #2
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Err, Chicago has a LOT of Dunkins.
And many Starbucks - perhaps I should narrow the scope from city to neighborhood? Oh and independent coffeee shops trump all - a high amount of those relative to Starbucks or dunkins is a good sign.
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Old 02-26-2008, 03:06 PM   #3
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And many Starbucks - perhaps I should narrow the scope from city to neighborhood? Oh and independent coffeee shops trump all - a high amount of those relative to Starbucks or dunkins is a good sign.
Query: which is Swankier? A suburban Starbucks with a daily coffee klatch of moms with strollers and predictable smooth jazz or an independent coffee shop with a daily coffee klatch of wasted yutes, bad local art on the walls and--here it comes--bad coffee?
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Old 02-26-2008, 08:21 PM   #4
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Query: which is Swankier? A suburban Starbucks with a daily coffee klatch of moms with strollers and predictable smooth jazz or an independent coffee shop with a daily coffee klatch of wasted yutes, bad local art on the walls and--here it comes--bad coffee?
The bad coffee independent is swankier
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Sounds like your talking about old Home Savings buildings.
Beat me to it! I ended up knowing quite a bit about the Home Savings murals because Millard Sheets did a few of them and his son, David, was a very good friend of ours and was on the Art is Public Places board for the City of Irvine, of which I was the City's representative. Home Savings was used often as a prime example of a good (and large) public art program. About the same time, Joan Irvine Smith opened a museum devoted to California Plein Air painting. I didn't know much about the movement before these two things happened and suddenly, my life was filled with more knowledge than I had ever desired on the subject.

I did get to go to Millard Sheet's house, Barking Rocks, in Gualala. Breathtaking house with the even more breathtaking view.
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