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Old 03-04-2008, 01:25 PM   #211
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Ok, let's (meaning someone else, please) do that. Get the location and Google Earth it. Scope it from the Spy Satellite.


But, yeah, the pretty sites go first. Who's to say we won't be first?


But, um, first things first. Let's get the location and spy view info on the group campsite.



ETA: Crane Flat is NOT 20 minutes from Yosemite Valley. It is much farther, being near the intersection of the Tioga Road. Thus, out of consideration. And, if I recall correctly, also not reservable.
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Old 03-04-2008, 01:29 PM   #212
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So, what you're saying is that DP is a liar liar pants on fire?
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Old 03-04-2008, 01:31 PM   #213
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So you're thinking about going June 7-8? Oop, I guess doing a party to renew our vows that weekend is a no-go. Ah well, maybe another anniversary.
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Old 03-04-2008, 01:46 PM   #214
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I'm saying DP was apparently misinformed about the proximity of Crane Flat to Yosemite. What's the difference? We have apparently ruled out Yosemite non-reservable campsites as too big a risk for Swank Camp, because we have so many people.


So ... what I'd like to know at some point is whether that will always disqualify Yosemite from being a Swank Camp location. We can't reasonably go there before late May, because too many great places are off-limits due to snow. We can't reasonably go there after August, because the waterfalls which are arguably the park's highlights won't be flowing worth a damn.

SO ... I'd like to know whether the gamble of trying for some consecutive campsites at White Wolf (which is the campground rougly 15 minutes from the edge of the Valley, and 25 minutes from Curry Village Day Parking) will ALWAYS be a Swank Camp non-starter. Because if that's the case, I'm going to try to arrange a much smaller excusion, perhaps at a lodge and not a camp, for me and Gemini Cricket and Cadaverous Pallor (and her hubby and anyone else who's never been) ... perhaps even for this year.



As for the anniversary party ... Gee, I'd like to do that, too. I hate to can-worm open, but arent' there any other June camping weekends possible?
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NO NO NO - we will definitely do the vow renewal thing with you guys sometime. We'll find a weekend, it totally doesn't even have to be our anniversary. We're flexible.

(On another note, if there's lodge "camping" at any point this year, well, T&I like lodges)
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I'm saying DP was apparently misinformed about the proximity of Crane Flat to Yosemite.
Dude, I was joking.
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Old 03-04-2008, 02:14 PM   #217
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The rangers who I've talked to about the group sites have been quite helpful and I'm sure can give you more information about the exact locations. The number they called me from on Friday was 559-565-3341. They do call back if you leave a message. Having only been in the area last year I have no idea locations etc.

My two cents - the kings canyon sites seemed to be pretty empty when we were there last year. If we're going even earlier in June I'd be fine with chancing it and picking out our own sites. The problem is communication with the others coming in at later times. But I'm sure we can figure out some sort of smoke signal system.

What if we compromise - do a group campsite in Kings Canyon for the whole group camping experience. Then as ISM suggested, another time, and maybe even this year, reserve a lodge or something in Yosemite proper for that experince (or plan ahead enough and do the lodge thing next summer instead?). Just a suggestion. That or we just have to break into smaller groups to do yosemite camping.

I'm happy to fax to them again with alternate dates just let me know what's decided.
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We want Wed - Tuesday or Thursday to Tuesday? At least a few people are going to have to be there the first day.
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OK. Pending a return phone call from a ranger confirming that Sheep Creek will even be OPEN in early June....... I'm going to suggest we do the following:

Sheep Creek
June 5-9 (or 10)

Following Memorial day weekend (and prior to school being out) the Kings Canyon campgrounds are REALLY deserted. So deserted that they may not have them all open in June. In my experience, Sheep Creek and Sentinel open first, Canyon View and Moraine open last. But, like I said, I'm waiting confirmation (if they even know). In any case, choosing that first weekend in June will give us the BEST opportunity for choosing the Sheep Creek Campsites of our swank dreams.

The following is a google earth map of the area. The campgrounds from left to right are:
Sheep Creek
Sentinel
Canyon View
Moraine

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