The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux) - Page 310

BarTopDancer · 03-04-2008, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Interesting. Today seems to be following the super Tuesday pattern. For whatever reason, Clinton's got a big advantage among people who make up their mind on the last day (or at least tell pollsters that they're undecided until the last day). I wonder what is it about her that attracts indecisive people?

Safety. They know what to expect from her [based upon the last time a Clinton was in the White House].

Not Afraid · 03-04-2008, 10:53 PM

I think it's more about doubt. I know that's what did it for me.

BDBopper · 03-04-2008, 10:56 PM

don't think anyone really cares but...

to you Mike Huckabee. It was my honor and pleasure to fight for you through the past seven months. It was a great fight and I don't regret at all being along for the ride despite what turned out to be a bitter end. I am very proud of the effort that we put forth but I am even prouder of the candidate that we supported in you and the clean campaign that you ran. I look forward to 2012 when we do it all over again but with a much more successful outcome.

Alex · 03-04-2008, 10:59 PM

I do find it interesting how expectations change interpretation. Two weeks ago, when discussing Ohio and Texas the tone was that Clinton was well ahead, could Obama catch up and make it close, etc., etc.

By the time the night rolls around everybody has convinced themselves he'll win them both and therefore not winning is a huge setback. Somehow this becomes a story of Obama having lost his appeal in Ohio when in reality the result in Ohio isn't all that different from the way its been polling for a while. And even being close in Texas would be a huge story if viewed from the story line of two weeks ago.

Oh well, I was mostly just hoping that after tonight I'd be able to ignore the presidential race until the conventions.

Ghoulish Delight · 03-04-2008, 11:03 PM

Yeah, the reality is that she's not going to be able to catch him on pledged delegates. He will go into the convention with the lead. So she's still got an uphill battle to convince super delegates or to get people to vote against their pledge.

I've seen a couple people theorize that she's going to start getting pressure form the party to drop out to avoid a street battle for delegates.

Motorboat Cruiser · 03-05-2008, 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Not Afraid

I think it's more about doubt. I know that's what did it for me.

My thought as well.

wendybeth · 03-05-2008, 12:52 AM

I was hoping it would be a knockout so we could finish tearing each other up and go after the other side. I must say that as things stand now, I really don't think I could in good conscience vote for Hillary, so if she gets nominated I may sit out my first Presidential election ever. My husband and MIL feel the same way. I hope Richardson and the other super-delegates go the way I think they might.

scaeagles · 03-05-2008, 05:00 AM

Me? I'm hoping for a huge fight for months between Obama and Clinton so they keep spending money to beat each other. Now that McCain has the Rep nomination officially, he can continue to build up funds (but wait! Didn't campaign finance reform eliminate money from politics???? Sigh.....still feel like I have to take a shower supporting McCain.) for the big fight.

3894 · 03-05-2008, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BDBopper

to you Mike Huckabee.

That's just lemonade in that glass, right, Brother BDBopper?

Signed,
A Nice Quaker Lady

Snowflake · 03-05-2008, 08:34 AM

Condolences, BDB. You fought the good fight.

That was no Obamarama last night. I do not think it is a change in momentum and I think the spin on Ohio being the state that seals the nomination for the winner in the primary is hooey. Hooey for the last 100 or so years, but still hooey to me!

I'm totally on the fence about November if Hillary wins the nomniation. I cannot, in good conscience, not cast a vote. One vote less from me would mean one more vote for McCain and I cannot in all good conscience place a vote in his column.

Sigh, no matter how much things change, they always stay the same?

03-04-2008, 10:53 PM	#3092
Not Afraid HI! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 17,108	I think it's more about doubt. I know that's what did it for me.
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BDBopper Not Taking Any Crap! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Cleaning Up America, One Step At A Time! Posts: 1,694	don't think anyone really cares but... to you Mike Huckabee. It was my honor and pleasure to fight for you through the past seven months. It was a great fight and I don't regret at all being along for the ride despite what turned out to be a bitter end. I am very proud of the effort that we put forth but I am even prouder of the candidate that we supported in you and the clean campaign that you ran. I look forward to 2012 when we do it all over again but with a much more successful outcome.
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03-04-2008, 10:59 PM	#3094
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	I do find it interesting how expectations change interpretation. Two weeks ago, when discussing Ohio and Texas the tone was that Clinton was well ahead, could Obama catch up and make it close, etc., etc. By the time the night rolls around everybody has convinced themselves he'll win them both and therefore not winning is a huge setback. Somehow this becomes a story of Obama having lost his appeal in Ohio when in reality the result in Ohio isn't all that different from the way its been polling for a while. And even being close in Texas would be a huge story if viewed from the story line of two weeks ago. Oh well, I was mostly just hoping that after tonight I'd be able to ignore the presidential race until the conventions.
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03-04-2008, 11:03 PM	#3095
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Yeah, the reality is that she's not going to be able to catch him on pledged delegates. He will go into the convention with the lead. So she's still got an uphill battle to convince super delegates or to get people to vote against their pledge. I've seen a couple people theorize that she's going to start getting pressure form the party to drop out to avoid a street battle for delegates. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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03-05-2008, 12:52 AM	#3097
wendybeth Nevermind Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,847	I was hoping it would be a knockout so we could finish tearing each other up and go after the other side. I must say that as things stand now, I really don't think I could in good conscience vote for Hillary, so if she gets nominated I may sit out my first Presidential election ever. My husband and MIL feel the same way. I hope Richardson and the other super-delegates go the way I think they might. __________________
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03-05-2008, 05:00 AM	#3098
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Me? I'm hoping for a huge fight for months between Obama and Clinton so they keep spending money to beat each other. Now that McCain has the Rep nomination officially, he can continue to build up funds (but wait! Didn't campaign finance reform eliminate money from politics???? Sigh.....still feel like I have to take a shower supporting McCain.) for the big fight.
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03-05-2008, 08:34 AM	#3100
Snowflake lost in the fog Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Francisco Posts: 7,831	Condolences, BDB. You fought the good fight. That was no Obamarama last night. I do not think it is a change in momentum and I think the spin on Ohio being the state that seals the nomination for the winner in the primary is hooey. Hooey for the last 100 or so years, but still hooey to me! I'm totally on the fence about November if Hillary wins the nomniation. I cannot, in good conscience, not cast a vote. One vote less from me would mean one more vote for McCain and I cannot in all good conscience place a vote in his column. Sigh, no matter how much things change, they always stay the same?
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