Home schooling in CA - Page 6

katiesue · 03-10-2008, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

I and I would suggest that most students who are doing poorly in public school would also do poorly if their parents were homsechooling them.

I wouldn't agree with this. A friend of mine is homeschooling, well Charter School which is a little different, because her child was doing poorly in public school. His test scores have improved tremendously since she started. He just needs more attention to accomplish this, and she knew that in a standard Jr. High he would get lost in the system.

scaeagles · 03-10-2008, 01:43 PM

Interestingly, though slamming on the public education system, I got a great education in CA public schools (grew up in Napa, CA). But that was 20 years ago, and I'm not wanting my kids in the current public education system.

Kevy Baby · 03-10-2008, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

Interestingly, though slamming on the public education system, I got a great education in CA public schools (grew up in Napa, CA). But that was 20 years ago, and I'm not wanting my kids in the current public education system.

I am a product of the LAUSD. There were problems, but a lot of them were caused by my own attitude and lack of proper parental guidance (a problem that is still persistent in today's landscape). Overall, I say that I had some great education opportunities.

Ghoulish Delight · 03-10-2008, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

I am a product of the LAUSD. There were problems, but a lot of them were caused by my own attitude and lack of proper parental guidance (a problem that is still persistent in today's landscape). Overall, I say that I had some great education opportunities.

Same boat here.

I'll admit that I had the slight advantage that my parents were part of said system. However, they NEVER went behind the scenes to pull strings. Everything they did and had access to were things that any parent could do and had access to. They were just more familiar with what those things were.

But the reality was that I spent 13 years (including kindergarten) in the LAUSD and got an excellent education. For 7 of those years I was with largely the same set of students. Most did well. A lot did not. Of those that did not, my observation was that most of the reason was that education was simply not a priority in their home. There were certainly a few for whom the public system simply did not have the capacity to help. But, to my eye, they were the exception. The majority of those that were struggling would have been perfectly capable of learning and achieving within the system if they actually tried.

Strangler Lewis · 03-10-2008, 02:17 PM

Speaking of private schools, Eliot Spitzer and I prepped together. Well, not really together. He was three years ahead of me, and I didn't know him. The school was all boys when I started in seventh grade. It went coed the next year except for the junior and senior classes. Spitzer was in the junior class. After eighth grade, we moved to southern California where I went to a coed and somewhat startlingly precocious public school. I probably did not get as good an education, and my path to power, well, it was just shot. I have, however, never been to a prostitute, much less a ring of them.

MouseWife · 03-10-2008, 02:53 PM

Damn but that was a lot of reading.....

I've been following the matter, just a bit, as I have homeschooled my two boys, just one year each, but I have.

I do not have any type of degree, certificates, nada. But, I knew I did not want my kids returning to their schools the following year. Schools may be for teaching but not all schools are equal. If I had a child who was to be in grade school right now, I do not think I would put them in.

The public school system, what programs haven't been cut? They are also cutting nurses, vice principals, teachers, but, adding more and more classrooms.

I can offer my child more as far as arts & sciences on my own, I believe, than most schools now can {especially with the budget cuts as well as the programs being replaced with other programs, like the emersion program}. Imagine taking a group of 50-70 kids on a field trip to an art museum, how much do you think one child would learn? Imagine trying to teach 20 children to read, write, or do math and how many of them don't speak English, or, haven't had any introduction to any type of education? Then imagine sitting alongside your child, showing them, teaching them. Which situation do you think your child would benefit more from?

When I went through the homeschool system, I had to be assigned to an accredited school. They interviewed me, asked me why I wanted to homeschool. We were assigned a teacher. Then I was assigned all of the books, workbooks, worksheets, etc., as well as the year plan of when each lesson was to be taught. We would turn in samples monthly as well as meet up with the teacher, though, not as often. The school had a small library as well as a computer room, and weekly classes in art and really every topic. They had fieldtrips where the kids could socialize {as well as those weekly classes}.

I think that the time I spent with my children homeschooling was the best time ever. I knew so much more about what they were learning and every where we went I could point out things that were relevant to their lessons. I think those things really sank in.

As for things that parents don't know, the teachers manual pretty much explains it all. Things you don't understand, you can either look on line or else set up a meeting with the teacher.

I don't think that right for parents should be taken away, and I don't think that we should have to have a degree. Some classes, that might help parents in how to teach, become organized. But, when the schools are in such bad shape that they are in, why should we be forced to send them?

I would like to see some checking up on parents, though. I know we worked and we covered everything they required, plus more. But, we were quite serious about it and I've always felt education was important, mostly, reading and math. The other subjects, I like for the kids to discover what interests them most and then focus on them. But, I do know parents who fudge things, who do not put in the necessary amount of time. That bothers me greatly. I wonder what happens when these children are tested {as they do test them regularly}.

That being said, I think it might balance out for the students in regular school whose parents are fudging things and not taking their education seriously. Either way, I personally, want that choice.

wendybeth · 03-10-2008, 02:55 PM

I didn't really feel like I was being criticized, BTD, but I will cop to feeling defensive with regards to comparing the homeschooling quality of education to the public school experience. They both have their advantages and drawbacks and both rely heavily on motivated students, parents and teachers. In my case, I am both parent and teacher, and as such am even more invested in a positive outcome.

wendybeth · 03-10-2008, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Strangler Lewis

Speaking of private schools, Eliot Spitzer and I prepped together. Well, not really together. He was three years ahead of me, and I didn't know him. The school was all boys when I started in seventh grade. It went coed the next year except for the junior and senior classes. Spitzer was in the junior class. After eighth grade, we moved to southern California where I went to a coed and somewhat startlingly precocious public school. I probably did not get as good an education, and my path to power, well, it was just shot. I have, however, never been to a prostitute, much less a ring of them.

Maybe Spitzer's just trying to get a little of what he missed out on- some coed-ucation.

DreadPirateRoberts · 03-10-2008, 03:02 PM

We have been homeschooling for the past 2 years. Our experiences have been similar to MouseWife's.

Alex · 03-10-2008, 03:02 PM

I don't really give a damn if someone uses a prostitute (since I think it should be legal anyway).

But when a politician does it, it really calls their abilities into question for me. Not because of any moral question but I do have to wonder about the decision making capabilities of a person willing to trade the non-trivial risk of embarrassment and disruption to their agenda for the incredibly short term benefit of ejaculation.

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Strangler Lewis Doing The Job Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In a state Posts: 3,956	Speaking of private schools, Eliot Spitzer and I prepped together. Well, not really together. He was three years ahead of me, and I didn't know him. The school was all boys when I started in seventh grade. It went coed the next year except for the junior and senior classes. Spitzer was in the junior class. After eighth grade, we moved to southern California where I went to a coed and somewhat startlingly precocious public school. I probably did not get as good an education, and my path to power, well, it was just shot. I have, however, never been to a prostitute, much less a ring of them. __________________ Live now-pay later. Diner's Club!
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MouseWife Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Da' Beach Posts: 2,957	Damn but that was a lot of reading..... I've been following the matter, just a bit, as I have homeschooled my two boys, just one year each, but I have. I do not have any type of degree, certificates, nada. But, I knew I did not want my kids returning to their schools the following year. Schools may be for teaching but not all schools are equal. If I had a child who was to be in grade school right now, I do not think I would put them in. The public school system, what programs haven't been cut? They are also cutting nurses, vice principals, teachers, but, adding more and more classrooms. I can offer my child more as far as arts & sciences on my own, I believe, than most schools now can {especially with the budget cuts as well as the programs being replaced with other programs, like the emersion program}. Imagine taking a group of 50-70 kids on a field trip to an art museum, how much do you think one child would learn? Imagine trying to teach 20 children to read, write, or do math and how many of them don't speak English, or, haven't had any introduction to any type of education? Then imagine sitting alongside your child, showing them, teaching them. Which situation do you think your child would benefit more from? When I went through the homeschool system, I had to be assigned to an accredited school. They interviewed me, asked me why I wanted to homeschool. We were assigned a teacher. Then I was assigned all of the books, workbooks, worksheets, etc., as well as the year plan of when each lesson was to be taught. We would turn in samples monthly as well as meet up with the teacher, though, not as often. The school had a small library as well as a computer room, and weekly classes in art and really every topic. They had fieldtrips where the kids could socialize {as well as those weekly classes}. I think that the time I spent with my children homeschooling was the best time ever. I knew so much more about what they were learning and every where we went I could point out things that were relevant to their lessons. I think those things really sank in. As for things that parents don't know, the teachers manual pretty much explains it all. Things you don't understand, you can either look on line or else set up a meeting with the teacher. I don't think that right for parents should be taken away, and I don't think that we should have to have a degree. Some classes, that might help parents in how to teach, become organized. But, when the schools are in such bad shape that they are in, why should we be forced to send them? I would like to see some checking up on parents, though. I know we worked and we covered everything they required, plus more. But, we were quite serious about it and I've always felt education was important, mostly, reading and math. The other subjects, I like for the kids to discover what interests them most and then focus on them. But, I do know parents who fudge things, who do not put in the necessary amount of time. That bothers me greatly. I wonder what happens when these children are tested {as they do test them regularly}. That being said, I think it might balance out for the students in regular school whose parents are fudging things and not taking their education seriously. Either way, I personally, want that choice. __________________ Summa' time....when the livins' easy......... Last edited by MouseWife : 03-10-2008 at 02:59 PM.
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wendybeth Nevermind Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,847	I didn't really feel like I was being criticized, BTD, but I will cop to feeling defensive with regards to comparing the homeschooling quality of education to the public school experience. They both have their advantages and drawbacks and both rely heavily on motivated students, parents and teachers. In my case, I am both parent and teacher, and as such am even more invested in a positive outcome. __________________
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DreadPirateRoberts Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,483	We have been homeschooling for the past 2 years. Our experiences have been similar to MouseWife's.
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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	I don't really give a damn if someone uses a prostitute (since I think it should be legal anyway). But when a politician does it, it really calls their abilities into question for me. Not because of any moral question but I do have to wonder about the decision making capabilities of a person willing to trade the non-trivial risk of embarrassment and disruption to their agenda for the incredibly short term benefit of ejaculation.
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