Yes, we can.

[Alex]

He can't win for losing...or something like that.

Early arguments against Obama from many Democrats was that he couldn't win because he was black. Not that the person saying it cared that he was black but that too many other people would care so for that person to vote for him would be a waste. Now, he's succeeding only because he is black.

There is certainly some excitement about seeing a black man go so far in the process, just as for many there is excitement at seeing a woman do the same. But it is silly to say it is only or primarily because he is black. Al Sharpton or Charles Rangel wouldn't have made it past Iowa.

But certainly it is part of the package. But her being a woman is part of Clinton's package as well.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by Alex

But certainly it is part of the package. But her being a woman is part of Clinton's package as well.

And then there's Bill's package...