Move to ban hallucinogenic herb - Page 4

Kevy Baby · 03-12-2008, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Morrigoon

So is water, shall we ban that too?

There is web site dedicated to such a cause: http://www.dhmo.org/

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Dihydrogen Monoxide Facts

Dihydrogen monoxide:

is also known as hydric acid, and is the major component of acid rain.
contributes to the Greenhouse Effect.
may cause severe burns.
contributes to the erosion of our natural landscape.
accelerates corrosion and rusting of many metals.
may cause electrical failures and decreased effectiveness of automobile brakes.
has been found in excised tumors of terminal cancer patients.

Not Afraid · 03-12-2008, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by blueerica

One of the things I've read about saliva in the past is that it can also make the user depressed and anti social, which has kept me from trying it. YMMV.

I thought we had moved on from water to saliva.

Motorboat Cruiser · 03-12-2008, 10:09 AM

I actually bought some of this stuff a few years ago (purely for research purposes.) After reading up on it on the internet, however, I opted not to indulge. What I read led me to believe that it was often unpredictable, and sometimes not in a pleasurable way. One site even suggested that you have someone monitor you during usage. I tend to stay away from drugs that require me to have a personal guardian. To the trash it went.

innerSpaceman · 03-12-2008, 10:15 AM

Oh please, I've heard that Personal Monitor stuff for so many drugs that didn't require any such thing.

But if it's likely to lead to post-use depression, it's not a hallucenogin ... rather something that acts on seretonin and its ilk, lile ecstacy. Not interested in the bliss drugs ... only in the psychenautic psychoactive enhancers.

I'm willing to try anything once. Is this available locally anywhere?

(And, if so, will you please monitor my trip, MBC?)

Ghoulish Delight · 03-12-2008, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

But if it's likely to lead to post-use depression, it's not a hallucenogin ... rather something that acts on seretonin and its ilk, lile ecstacy. Not interested in the bliss drugs ... only in the psychenautic psychoactive enhancers.

Oh, it ain't nothin' like X.

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I'm willing to try anything once. Is this available locally anywhere?

Like I said, I've seen plants available at local nurseries. Just not sure if there's any difference in varieties that would make those not suitable for the narcotic use.

Chernabog · 03-12-2008, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Not Afraid

I thought we had moved on from water to saliva.

It's a privilege to pee...
Water's worth its weight in gold these days

No more bathrooms like in olden days!
You come here and pay a fee
For the privilege to pee!

Motorboat Cruiser · 03-12-2008, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Oh please, I've heard that Personal Monitor stuff for so many drugs that didn't require any such thing.

Indeed, and considering that I've been around the block more than a few times, I wasn't too worried about that fact. Although, the person that wrote the article did seem pretty knowledgeable and experienced in regard to this particular drug.

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I'm willing to try anything once. Is this available locally anywhere?

(And, if so, will you please monitor my trip, MBC?)

Be careful what you wish for.

I Heart Disneyland · 03-13-2008, 09:15 PM

I'm of the mindset that marijuana should be legallized, but, that's not this story. And, no, I don't smoke it.

Ghoulish Delight · 03-21-2008, 05:11 PM

Salvia Divinorum is the psychoactive species.

I learned this after pulling seeing these (crappy cell phone photo) planted along Fairview blvd. next to a park and pulling over to grab a clipping to identify it. Turns out it's salvia! But it appears to be Salvia leucantha, not divinorum, so no worries if and when I plant this in the back. The flowers are fuzzy!

ETA: I don't know if leucantha has been tested for psychoactive effects or not. I did find a study that showed that a 3rd species (splendens, generally with scarlet red flowers) produced "effects" consistent with a placebo. So it seems that divinorum is THE species of interest. I still don't know what availability is.

Not Afraid · 03-21-2008, 05:32 PM

Salvia Divinorum is different than the garden variety (literaly) flowering salvia (member of the Sage family) which commonly has either red or purple flowers and is quite popular in those ubiquitous mini landscapes at gas stations or shopping centers. Its also quite different from the Sage used in herb gardening and cooking. There are quite a few different wild varieties of sage as well, but I don't think Salvia Divinorum is native to the US. I've never seen Salvia Divinorum anywhere either growing wild or at a nursery - although it's not a plant I would recognize off the bat (like some other wildflowers I become obsessed about.)

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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Oh please, I've heard that Personal Monitor stuff for so many drugs that didn't require any such thing. But if it's likely to lead to post-use depression, it's not a hallucenogin ... rather something that acts on seretonin and its ilk, lile ecstacy. Not interested in the bliss drugs ... only in the psychenautic psychoactive enhancers. I'm willing to try anything once. Is this available locally anywhere? (And, if so, will you please monitor my trip, MBC?)
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03-21-2008, 05:11 PM	#39
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Salvia Divinorum is the psychoactive species. I learned this after pulling seeing these (crappy cell phone photo) planted along Fairview blvd. next to a park and pulling over to grab a clipping to identify it. Turns out it's salvia! But it appears to be Salvia leucantha, not divinorum, so no worries if and when I plant this in the back. The flowers are fuzzy! ETA: I don't know if leucantha has been tested for psychoactive effects or not. I did find a study that showed that a 3rd species (splendens, generally with scarlet red flowers) produced "effects" consistent with a placebo. So it seems that divinorum is THE species of interest. I still don't know what availability is. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ Last edited by Ghoulish Delight : 03-21-2008 at 05:18 PM.
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03-21-2008, 05:32 PM	#40
Not Afraid HI! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 17,108	Salvia Divinorum is different than the garden variety (literaly) flowering salvia (member of the Sage family) which commonly has either red or purple flowers and is quite popular in those ubiquitous mini landscapes at gas stations or shopping centers. Its also quite different from the Sage used in herb gardening and cooking. There are quite a few different wild varieties of sage as well, but I don't think Salvia Divinorum is native to the US. I've never seen Salvia Divinorum anywhere either growing wild or at a nursery - although it's not a plant I would recognize off the bat (like some other wildflowers I become obsessed about.)
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