Miscellaneous Movie Musings

innerSpaceman · 03-21-2008, 07:25 PM

Historical accuracy? Is that your gripe? Hahahahahaha.

Your other criticisms are well-founded ... but I don't find perfect adherence to historical accuracy to be a requirement of a costume drama.

In fact, though, Elizabeth reaching older age was a pretty strong theme in this film ... and good use was made of having the same actress play the role 10 years later.

Sorry if it wasn't 30, G.C. But, Sylvester Stallone aside, it's pretty rare an actor revisits a role 10 years later.

Oh, er ... Indy.

Alex · 03-21-2008, 08:04 PM

And Jack Lemmon/Walter Mathau with The Odd Couple (30 years). And Brude Willis with 19 years between the first and last Die Hard (and 12 years between the last two). And Schwarzenegger with 19 years between first and last Terminator (and 12 years between the last two). And Sharon Stone returning to Basic Instinct after 14 years. And Dan Ayckroyd with 18 years before being Elwood Blues again. Sigourney Weaver's Ellen Ripley spanned 18 years. Paul Newman's Eddie Felson saw 27 years of life fly by between The Hustler and The Color of Money.

Only 9 years for Ethan Hawke and Julie Delpy in Before Sunrise and Before Sunset. Of course, a whole mess of people got to watch their characters age in the 16 years between The Godfather, Part II, and The Godfather, Part III.

My favorite, Patrick Swayze waited 17 years to reprise his character form Dirty Dancing in Dirty Dancing: Havana Nights - which was technically a prequel.

All of that means nothing and has nothing to do with the topic at hand. It was just fun to think up the list. On topic, I'm closer to GC on this one. It was booooooooring enough that I barely paid enough attention to have an opinion on costuming.

ETA: Forgot about 13 years for Linda Kozlowski and Paul Hogan between Crocodile Dundee II and Crocodile Dundee in Los Angeles. I'm probably going to spend the whole night have others pop into my head.

ETA2: And there are rumors floating that Eastwood's next movie, Gran Torino, is going to be a "Dirty Harry returns as washed up retired detective" movie, which would be 21 years since the last Dirty Harry movie, The Dead Pool. But I really hope that rumor is wrong.

ETA3: See, my mind is going crazy now. Also later this year, early next we have the return of Fox and Mulder after a decade.

ETA4: ****, three other obvious ones. Anthony Perkins, 23 years between Psycho and Psycho II. Jack Nicholson with 16 years between Chinatown and The Two Jakes (and if, as has been rumored he tries it a third time it would be another 18 years since that second one). 29 years between The Last Picture Show and Texasville with many cast members returning (including Jeff and Beau Bridges, Cloris Leachman, and Cybil Shepherd). Ok, I promise to stop now. Unless I can't help myself.

Gemini Cricket · 03-21-2008, 09:20 PM

I've finished the film Elizabeth: TGA and nothing redeems it. This take on Elizabeth's is tarnished.
I hereby decree that this film be banished to the White Tower and never released. The editor of this film will also enter through Traitor's Gate as a traitor to good film making and also sent to the tower where he will be fated to watch this tripe on a continual loop for the rest of his years. Ms. Blanchett and Mr. Owen shall be spared my anger. For their past efforts which outclass this one, they are forgiven. Mr. Kapur will be denied an audience from me henceforth. If there is to be a third installment of the Elizabeth tale, I shall weep five hundred year old tears.

As for you, Mr. Spaceman, this queen demands historical accuracy for a film portraying my most cherished historical figure and leader. You may find it laughable, but I do not. What does attribute to folly is your famously bad taste in films. For that, you will be sent to the rack... my rack of DVDs for a collection of truly great films for you to reference.*

HRH Crickebeth the First

*For those not familiar with humor, this take on Steve is in jest and in jest only.

03-21-2008, 07:25 PM	#1
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Historical accuracy? Is that your gripe? Hahahahahaha. Your other criticisms are well-founded ... but I don't find perfect adherence to historical accuracy to be a requirement of a costume drama. In fact, though, Elizabeth reaching older age was a pretty strong theme in this film ... and good use was made of having the same actress play the role 10 years later. Sorry if it wasn't 30, G.C. But, Sylvester Stallone aside, it's pretty rare an actor revisits a role 10 years later. Oh, er ... Indy.
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03-21-2008, 08:04 PM	#2
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	And Jack Lemmon/Walter Mathau with The Odd Couple (30 years). And Brude Willis with 19 years between the first and last Die Hard (and 12 years between the last two). And Schwarzenegger with 19 years between first and last Terminator (and 12 years between the last two). And Sharon Stone returning to Basic Instinct after 14 years. And Dan Ayckroyd with 18 years before being Elwood Blues again. Sigourney Weaver's Ellen Ripley spanned 18 years. Paul Newman's Eddie Felson saw 27 years of life fly by between The Hustler and The Color of Money. Only 9 years for Ethan Hawke and Julie Delpy in Before Sunrise and Before Sunset. Of course, a whole mess of people got to watch their characters age in the 16 years between The Godfather, Part II, and The Godfather, Part III. My favorite, Patrick Swayze waited 17 years to reprise his character form Dirty Dancing in Dirty Dancing: Havana Nights - which was technically a prequel. All of that means nothing and has nothing to do with the topic at hand. It was just fun to think up the list. On topic, I'm closer to GC on this one. It was booooooooring enough that I barely paid enough attention to have an opinion on costuming. ETA: Forgot about 13 years for Linda Kozlowski and Paul Hogan between Crocodile Dundee II and Crocodile Dundee in Los Angeles. I'm probably going to spend the whole night have others pop into my head. ETA2: And there are rumors floating that Eastwood's next movie, Gran Torino, is going to be a "Dirty Harry returns as washed up retired detective" movie, which would be 21 years since the last Dirty Harry movie, The Dead Pool. But I really hope that rumor is wrong. ETA3: See, my mind is going crazy now. Also later this year, early next we have the return of Fox and Mulder after a decade. ETA4: ***, three other obvious ones. Anthony Perkins, 23 years between Psycho* and Psycho II. Jack Nicholson with 16 years between Chinatown and The Two Jakes (and if, as has been rumored he tries it a third time it would be another 18 years since that second one). 29 years between The Last Picture Show and Texasville with many cast members returning (including Jeff and Beau Bridges, Cloris Leachman, and Cybil Shepherd). Ok, I promise to stop now. Unless I can't help myself. Last edited by Alex : 03-21-2008 at 08:18 PM.
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03-21-2008, 09:20 PM	#3
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	I've finished the film Elizabeth: TGA and nothing redeems it. This take on Elizabeth's is tarnished. I hereby decree that this film be banished to the White Tower and never released. The editor of this film will also enter through Traitor's Gate as a traitor to good film making and also sent to the tower where he will be fated to watch this tripe on a continual loop for the rest of his years. Ms. Blanchett and Mr. Owen shall be spared my anger. For their past efforts which outclass this one, they are forgiven. Mr. Kapur will be denied an audience from me henceforth. If there is to be a third installment of the Elizabeth tale, I shall weep five hundred year old tears. As for you, Mr. Spaceman, this queen demands historical accuracy for a film portraying my most cherished historical figure and leader. You may find it laughable, but I do not. What does attribute to folly is your famously bad taste in films. For that, you will be sent to the rack... my rack of DVDs for a collection of truly great films for you to reference.* HRH Crickebeth the First *For those not familiar with humor, this take on Steve is in jest and in jest only.
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