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Old 04-07-2008, 09:33 AM   #1
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"Your eyes are full of hate, forty-one. That's good. Hate keeps a man alive. It gives him strength."

Apparently, only for so long.

I too despised his politics - but always enjoyed his films.
I'm sorry- are you saying hate kept him alive?

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In a Hollywood where conservative politics are frowned upon by most, I admired his courage to stand for what he believed. I am certainly no acting critic nor movie expert, but I enjoyed what of his I watched and knew. I will the lone voice in the wilderness here (there's a shock) and say I loved the man's politics.

I concur.

I wonder if, based on that opinion, hate is also keeping us alive?
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Old 04-07-2008, 10:44 AM   #2
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I agreed with Moore that Heston's attendance at the NRA meeting shortly after Columbine was heartless. He was asked to stay away by the mayor and still showed up. While Heston was a adequate actor, actions like that made him seem like quite a buffoon.
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Old 04-07-2008, 11:45 AM   #3
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I agreed with Moore that Heston's attendance at the NRA meeting shortly after Columbine was heartless. He was asked to stay away by the mayor and still showed up. While Heston was a adequate actor, actions like that made him seem like quite a buffoon.
Why? I've never understood that. The NRA had absolutely nothing to do with Columbine and staying away based on that would in some way admit some form of culpability on behlaf of the NRA and legal gun owners. Unless I am remembering incorrectly, the weapons were acquired illegally.

I suppose this isn't really the place to rehash that kind of stuff....or maybe it is. There are arguments that a well trained armed teacher could have stopped much of the bloodshed. I suppose I've continued the opening of the pandora's box of the subject.....
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Old 04-07-2008, 12:23 PM   #4
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Why? I've never understood that. The NRA had absolutely nothing to do with Columbine and staying away based on that would in some way admit some form of culpability on behlaf of the NRA and legal gun owners. Unless I am remembering incorrectly, the weapons were acquired illegally.

I suppose this isn't really the place to rehash that kind of stuff....or maybe it is. There are arguments that a well trained armed teacher could have stopped much of the bloodshed. I suppose I've continued the opening of the pandora's box of the subject.....
Wow, I knew our politics differed, L, but... armed teachers? Yikes.

No, the NRA had nothing to do with Columbine. So why did they stage the pro-gun rally there in the first place? Purposefully after children died at gunpoint? Families were grieving. It was as timely and considerate as Phelps and his protesters at funerals. People like guns and want to own them - I get it. But was that really and truly appropriate? Respectful? Not in my opinion.
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Old 04-07-2008, 02:08 PM   #5
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There are arguments that a well trained armed teacher could have stopped much of the bloodshed. I suppose I've continued the opening of the pandora's box of the subject.....
This is the same argument you deplore when phrased as reducing the speed limit to unworkable limits to save 36,000 lives a year or its equivalent in the global warming context.

A world where "well trained armed teachers" exist is a world where everyone is armed and the police beat everyone with sticks every block or so to keep them in line. We don't want to live in a five mph world, and we don't want to live in this world either.
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Old 04-07-2008, 10:49 AM   #6
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I'm sorry- are you saying hate kept him alive?




I concur.

I wonder if, based on that opinion, hate is also keeping us alive?

No, no, no, no, no. Sometimes I have a dry sense of humor, is all. I didn't agree with him on a lot of things, but I was just quoting Ben Hur and making a joke of it.
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Old 04-07-2008, 12:05 PM   #7
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No, no, no, no, no. Sometimes I have a dry sense of humor, is all. I didn't agree with him on a lot of things, but I was just quoting Ben Hur and making a joke of it.
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