RIP Charlton Heston - Page 6

Cadaverous Pallor · 04-07-2008, 08:36 PM

Yeech, I'm sensing a distinct lack of respect for a dead man. I guess the internet really is only for tearing people new assholes, even after they've turned 84 and kicked the bucket.

Show some respect. I may not agree with his politics but his film career changed the history of cinema - and I think you movie dorks should at least pay homage to that without spitting in his face before he's even buried.

innerSpaceman · 04-07-2008, 08:40 PM

Um, I reviewed his entire film career today (thanks, Variety) and it hardly changed the history of cinema (though I was surprised to learn The Ten Commandments was the second highest grossing film when it was released).

And yes, Kevy, that's the phrase. Where did I say he said it in Denver? I said it was practically a dare to kill him ... and I stand by that.

As for the Denver thing, I believe Heston showed the utmost disrespect for the dead. I'm merely returning the disfavor.

Gemini Cricket · 04-07-2008, 08:43 PM

Why should someone dying mean that automatically one should show some respect towards them?
I have no respect for the man. His films were decent. He was an average actor. None of that has changed for me now that he's gone.

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Kevy Baby · 04-07-2008, 08:50 PM

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Fictional? I think you need to check your dictionary again. Moore has backed up a lot of what he said in his documentary.
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Ah yes, I know that page well. The one where he skirts around a great number of the more prominent accusations to rant a little more.

Nope, I stick with my original claim that far too much of that movie is distorted to be considered a documentary. I am not saying that the entire thing is completely false, but I have read enough and done my own research to know that I cannot and probably will never trust anything that Micheal Moore has to say.

Read the true facts here, here, here, and many other places across the internet. Unfortunately one of my favorite sights on the topic, http://www.hardylaw.net/ is currently down. Also, Larry Elder (no relation) had a great article on the subject, but I am unable to locate it at the moment.

Tref · 04-07-2008, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

Yeech, I'm sensing a distinct lack of respect for a dead man.

Ahh, that's all right. Heston don't mind. Some might say that he's in a better place right now, but that all depends on your view of being buried underground. Either way, I am sure Heston would welcome any discussion about his life.

I was never much of a Heston fan though I do like a few of his movies. Touch of Evil is great. The Naked Jungle is OK. Planet of the Apes ... but then that's about it. Did I miss one?

Gemini Cricket · 04-07-2008, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

I am not saying that the entire thing is completely false...

To continue with the pedantic... Uh calling a documentary "fictional" would mean what then?

Kevy Baby · 04-07-2008, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

And yes, Kevy, that's the phrase. Where did I say he said it in Denver? I said it was practically a dare to kill him ... and I stand by that.

Sorry; I was being a bit pro-active. Since we were discussing Charlton Heston, Columbine, MM and BFC, and since MM distorted his movie to directly insinuate that the remark was made at the NRA convention in Denver right after Columbine, which was the topic at hand, I made a (to me) logical assumption.

CH was passionate in his beliefs in terms of gun control. I do not necessarily agree with him on everything, but I do admire his steadfastness.

Kevy Baby · 04-07-2008, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

To continue with the pedantic... Uh calling a documentary "fictional" would mean what then?

Strangler Lewis · 04-07-2008, 09:00 PM

"Touch of Evil" was great, but I'm not sure it was because of Heston's portrayal of a Mexican cop.

In general, I thought he had solid leading man presence. Much like Harrison Ford, you'd be on his side even if his line readings were a bit overheated.

scaeagles · 04-07-2008, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

To continue with the pedantic... Uh calling a documentary "fictional" would mean what then?

All good fiction has a degree of truth or plausibility.

04-07-2008, 08:36 PM	#51
Cadaverous Pallor ohhhh baby Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Parental Bliss Posts: 12,364	Yeech, I'm sensing a distinct lack of respect for a dead man. I guess the internet really is only for tearing people new assholes, even after they've turned 84 and kicked the bucket. Show some respect. I may not agree with his politics but his film career changed the history of cinema - and I think you movie dorks should at least pay homage to that without spitting in his face before he's even buried. __________________ The second star to the right shines in the night for you
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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Um, I reviewed his entire film career today (thanks, Variety) and it hardly changed the history of cinema (though I was surprised to learn The Ten Commandments was the second highest grossing film when it was released). And yes, Kevy, that's the phrase. Where did I say he said it in Denver? I said it was practically a dare to kill him ... and I stand by that. As for the Denver thing, I believe Heston showed the utmost disrespect for the dead. I'm merely returning the disfavor.
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04-07-2008, 08:43 PM	#53
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	Why should someone dying mean that automatically one should show some respect towards them? I have no respect for the man. His films were decent. He was an average actor. None of that has changed for me now that he's gone. ???
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Strangler Lewis Doing The Job Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In a state Posts: 3,956	"Touch of Evil" was great, but I'm not sure it was because of Heston's portrayal of a Mexican cop. In general, I thought he had solid leading man presence. Much like Harrison Ford, you'd be on his side even if his line readings were a bit overheated. __________________ Live now-pay later. Diner's Club!
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