Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull [use spoiler tags, please] - Page 19

Alex · 05-28-2008, 11:04 AM

Not that it really matters, but could that warehouse really have been the one with the ark? That area was definitely the site of super secret government programs by the early 1950s (the U-2 program was out of there) but did it exist in 1936-7 when it would have been stored by the government?

Edwards Air Force base was founded in 1933 but I"m not finding a founding date for the Nevada Test and Training Range (of which Area 51 is a part).

This is the type of historical inaccuracy (if it is) that I don't really care about. I'm just curious now that I thought about it.

Eliza Hodgkins 1812 · 05-28-2008, 11:09 AM

And this only increases my appreciation of the film.

From boingboing.net, "This crystal skull from the British Museum was once believed to have been ancient Aztec handiwork."

Even if it doesn't sound like it increased David Pescovitz's. Heh.

Moonliner · 05-28-2008, 11:14 AM

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Ok, then how does Indy survive, without a scratch I might add, being nuclear-blast blown in a household refrigerator, with a crash landing of 7 bounces?

AHA! He can't! The Grail Knight was WRONG!!!

Aha! Obviously you were not paying close enough attention. That was no ordinary fridge. It was lead lined! So not only was he safe but not even superman could have found him in there.....

Although if pressed, I would have to admit that he never said dad was dead. I believe he said "Lost" which in the Jones family could mean a great many things....

Moonliner · 05-28-2008, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Eliza Hodgkins 1812

And this only increases my appreciation of the film.

From boingboing.net, "This crystal skull from the British Museum was once believed to have been ancient Aztek handiwork."

Even if it doesn't sound like it increased David Pescovitz's. Heh.

There is a problem with that link: Here is the correct one.

Ponine · 05-28-2008, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

Not that it really matters, but could that warehouse really have been the one with the ark? That area was definitely the site of super secret government programs by the early 1950s (the U-2 program was out of there) but did it exist in 1936-7 when it would have been stored by the government?

Edwards Air Force base was founded in 1933 but I"m not finding a founding date for the Nevada Test and Training Range (of which Area 51 is a part).

This is the type of historical inaccuracy (if it is) that I don't really care about. I'm just curious now that I thought about it.

at which point someone would respond with, they moved it.

Moonliner · 05-28-2008, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ponine

at which point someone would respond with, they moved it.

I would respond with: The warehouse was there first. Isolated location, low humidity, room to grow, a safe distance from anywhere. The perfect place for a super secret warehouse for super secret stuff. The air force showed up later....

Alex · 05-28-2008, 12:18 PM

Like I said, not important, just curious.

I still can't find exact dates but it appears the first military installations were build at Groom Lake during WWII abandoned after the war and the super secret stuff didn't begin until the early 1950s.

But yes, that is the beauty of super secret stuff. You can always posit further secrets as yet unrevealed. Though what exactly the government had so much of in 1936 that they'd need to store acres of it in about the most remote possible location I don't know.

Interestingly, I always interpreted the warehouse at the end of Raiders as not some super secret facility but rather a bureaucratic dumping ground. I found this result much more interesting. Not that the government knew what it had and was hiding it and protecting it but rather that it just got lost in the bureaucratic morass of the federal government. Filed away and then never thought of again.

innerSpaceman · 05-28-2008, 12:33 PM

Yeah, I never pictured it that way either, though I loved having it show up again, albeit re-purposed.

Of course, I pictured Indiana Jones as someone who didn't believe in hocus-pocus or magic in 1936, but sequels proved me wrong.

Gemini Cricket · 05-28-2008, 12:40 PM

Pssh.
Guess what?
I told my dad to go see Indy 4. I told him that some of Ford's expressions and actions reminded me of him. He saw the movie and agreed. BUT you'll never guess what his new nickname for me is...

katiesue · 05-28-2008, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

Interestingly, I always interpreted the warehouse at the end of Raiders as not some super secret facility but rather a bureaucratic dumping ground. I found this result much more interesting. Not that the government knew what it had and was hiding it and protecting it but rather that it just got lost in the bureaucratic morass of the federal government. Filed away and then never thought of again.

That's what I always thought as well. It ended up being just some crate (with no markings) lost in a vast warehouse.

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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Not that it really matters, but could that warehouse really have been the one with the ark? That area was definitely the site of super secret government programs by the early 1950s (the U-2 program was out of there) but did it exist in 1936-7 when it would have been stored by the government? Edwards Air Force base was founded in 1933 but I"m not finding a founding date for the Nevada Test and Training Range (of which Area 51 is a part). This is the type of historical inaccuracy (if it is) that I don't really care about. I'm just curious now that I thought about it.
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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Like I said, not important, just curious. I still can't find exact dates but it appears the first military installations were build at Groom Lake during WWII abandoned after the war and the super secret stuff didn't begin until the early 1950s. But yes, that is the beauty of super secret stuff. You can always posit further secrets as yet unrevealed. Though what exactly the government had so much of in 1936 that they'd need to store acres of it in about the most remote possible location I don't know. Interestingly, I always interpreted the warehouse at the end of Raiders as not some super secret facility but rather a bureaucratic dumping ground. I found this result much more interesting. Not that the government knew what it had and was hiding it and protecting it but rather that it just got lost in the bureaucratic morass of the federal government. Filed away and then never thought of again.
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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Yeah, I never pictured it that way either, though I loved having it show up again, albeit re-purposed. Of course, I pictured Indiana Jones as someone who didn't believe in hocus-pocus or magic in 1936, but sequels proved me wrong.
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Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	Pssh. Guess what? I told my dad to go see Indy 4. I told him that some of Ford's expressions and actions reminded me of him. He saw the movie and agreed. BUT you'll never guess what his new nickname for me is...
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