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Old 05-30-2008, 02:46 PM   #271
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Hmm. I recall that he was in the books as a suicide, but was likely killed by other means. I don't think the writers are leading us to conclude that he had to move the island at all. If his job, upon leaving, was to make sure that everyone who left must come back with him, I think he would be gone for a long time. First, he'd have a tough job convincing people to go back to the island. Second, some of those who need to go back may be MIA. I believe Penny and Desmond are in hiding, and if Ben is having a hard time finding her, I imagine Locke would just as hard a time.

We also (unless I missed something) don't know how long Locke was gone. Or, if he is time traveling, whether he leaves and returns to the island multiple times.
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Old 05-30-2008, 02:47 PM   #272
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I think you're misunderstanding me, love. There is more than one way to leave the island. There has been an assumption circulating online that Locke also had to move the island, otherwise how could have left the island. But Richard has left the island. Others have left. My guess is they control moving through time and space, hence why Richard seems to be ageless....

I also assume that Locke learned the trick. And when he realized the island was in peril because some of the survivors, etc., left, he too left the island to find them and bring them back.
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Old 05-30-2008, 02:49 PM   #273
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Hmm. I recall that he was in the books as a suicide, but was likely killed by other means. I don't think the writers are leading us to conclude that he had to move the island at all. If his job, upon leaving, was to make sure that everyone who left must come back with him, I think he would be gone for a long time. First, he'd have a tough job convincing people to go back to the island. Second, some of those who need to go back may be MIA. I believe Penny and Desmond are in hiding, and if Ben is having a hard time finding her, I imagine Locke would just as hard a time.

We also (unless I missed something) don't know how long Ben was gone. Or, if he is time traveling, whether he leaves and returns to the island multiple times.
Of course, this is all true. They are obviously purposely, as usual, playing it both ways. By having John show up off the island in the very same episode that they make a big deal about one way to get off the island, they obviously want you to think about it. But yes, it could go either way.
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Old 05-30-2008, 04:13 PM   #274
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RStar, I think it will be a new online game. It was a commercial in the last few minutes of the show. After I heard "volunteers" I looked up and saw it said "sponsored by ABC Inc".

Did anyone watch Good Morning America to get the alternate endings?
Oh, I missed the commercial. I was falling asleep, and had to rewind to see who was in the casket!

Yes, did any one see the alternate endings?
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Old 05-30-2008, 04:59 PM   #275
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Oh, I missed the commercial. I was falling asleep, and had to rewind to see who was in the casket!

Yes, did any one see the alternate endings?

Yes, but it actually just proves that the writers really don't know what they're doing or where they are going:

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Sawyer in casket in alternate ending #1 and Sayid in casket in alternate ending #2


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Old 05-30-2008, 09:41 PM   #276
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I think those endings were red herrings to spoil any spoilers. I have a feeling that they always intended to have it be Locke.
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Old 05-31-2008, 12:22 AM   #277
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Red herrings, much the same way that multiple cast members of "Dallas" were filmed shooting J.R., in order to keep the real shooter's identity a secret.

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And, for fun, Jeremy Bentham.
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Note "John Locke" in his "influence by" list.


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As requested in his will, his (Jeremy Bentham's) body was preserved and stored in a wooden cabinet, termed his "Auto-icon". Originally kept by his disciple Dr. Southwood Smith,[11] it was acquired by University College London in 1850. The Auto-icon is kept on public display at the end of the South Cloisters in the main building of the College. For the 100th and 150th anniversaries of the college, the Auto-icon was brought to the meeting of the College Council, where he was listed as "present but not voting".[12] Tradition holds that if the council's vote on any motion is tied, the auto-icon always breaks the tie by voting in favour of the motion.

The Auto-icon has always had a wax head, as Bentham's head was badly damaged in the preservation process. The real head was displayed in the same case for many years, but became the target of repeated student pranks including being stolen on more than one occasion. It is now locked away securely.
Maybe they need Locke to break a tie vote?

I wonder if his head is wax. Looked kind of weird to me.
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Old 05-31-2008, 09:57 AM   #278
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Part 1 of the 3 hour finale was shown again before parts 2 & 3 with an extended press conference. In the extra footage we learn the identity of the other 3 (of the 8 who made it off the plane in Jack's fabricated story).

Boone died of massive internal injuries soon after making it to the island. Libby died a few weeks later (no explanation of how). Charlie drowned a few weeks before their rescue.

So the math works out now. 8 plane survivors - 3 dead + Aaron = Oceanic 6.
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Old 05-31-2008, 11:03 AM   #279
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Who new there was a hidden math quiz in this show? Go figure....
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Who new there was a hidden math quiz in this show? Go figure....
Thank goodness someone else figured it out! I'm the only asian in the world that is bad at math! lol
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