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Old 07-09-2008, 06:36 PM   #241
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The prop on this issue now has a number.
Prop 8.

No on 8.
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Old 07-09-2008, 11:02 PM   #242
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Some dweeb at the Love Honor Cherish meeting last night wanted us to link our message with the larger political campaign of Equality for All, which is undoubtely going to be No on 8, with lots of No, No, No ... whereas LHC wants its message to be a very positive Yes, Yes message about love.


As in Support Love, Honor Equality, Cherish Freedom. and then, to get people thinking about the issue, perhaps a little know on 8.
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Old 07-10-2008, 09:36 AM   #243
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Not to hate
No on eight
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Old 07-10-2008, 10:14 AM   #244
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Courtesy of INXS:

Hallucinate
Dessegregate
Mediate
No on eight
Try not to hate
Love your mate
Don't suffocate on your own hate
Designate your love as fate
A one world state
With no on eight
The number eight
That's no on eight
A gentle trait
The broken crate
A heavy weight
Just no on eight
Like pretty Kate has sex ornate
Now devastate
Appreciate
Depreciate
No on eight
Emulate
The truth dilate
Special date
Really, no on eight
Guilt debate
The edge serrate
The youth irate
No on eight
Deliberate

Fascinate
Deviate
No on eight
Liberate
To moderate
Recreate
No on eight
Annihiliate
Atomic fate

Mediate
Clear the state
Activate
No on eight
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Food on plate
No on eight
Vote no on eight
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At ninety-eight we all rotate

No on eight
No on eight
No on eight
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Old 07-10-2008, 10:24 AM   #245
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Awesome, Tom!

To simplify:

Just Love Your Mate - Vote No on Eight
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Old 07-13-2008, 01:03 AM   #246
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Random thought: is it too late to get another proposition on the ballot? Why aren't we trying to put a competing prop on the ballot that would amend the state constitution to specifically INCLUDE gay marriage by defining marriage as a union between two persons to create a single household?

Oh, and I already brought this up in the Sooo... thread, but I've decided that when talking to people who are against gay marriage (ick factor, religion, semantics over the word "marriage", etc.) - instead of antagonizing them by trying to convince them to like gay marriage, I'm going to try to provide them with enough reasons that mean something to them (protect freedom, keep the government out of your personal life, don't take away rights that others currently have, whatever it takes) to convince them to not vote on the issue at all.

Yep, I'm going to try to make them just uncomfortable enough with a yes vote to convince them to abstain. And I'm going to make it clear that I can respect an abstention. One less yes vote to overcome
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Random thought: is it too late to get another proposition on the ballot?
Yes. It takes a little over a year to successfully get an initiative onto the ballot (submitting intent with the AG, collecting signatures, etc.).

Go to this link and look for "Suggested Initiative Deadlines"
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Leaders of the gay and lesbian community, along with their union allies, plan to boycott the Manchester Grand Hyatt because its owner, Doug Manchester, has contributed $125,000 to an initiative to ban same-sex marriage.
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In addition, he said, he was motivated by his strong Catholic faith to believe that marriage is between a man and a woman.
But, he said that he welcomes gays and lesbians to his hotels and restaurants.
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Manchester: Gays shouldn't marry but I'll take their money...
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Old 07-15-2008, 03:34 PM   #249
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Breaking News
The Massachusetts Senate has voted to repeal a 1913 law used to bar out-of-state gay couples from marrying in the state.

Obviously, it needs to be approved by the MA House & Governor, but Gov. Patrick looks to be in favor of the bill.

Take THAT Mitt Romney!
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I'm relieved, but confess to being a tad miffed California's economy won't have the lock on out-of-state gay weddings.


Frankly, that was going to be an argument in favor of putting the kibosh on Prop. 8.


Money talks.
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