The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux)

[Gemini Cricket]

Conservatives have hope, too. They hope Jeb will follow Obama.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Whether Clinton did or did not do the right thing is irrelevant in response to that inane billboard.

Hey, all I was doing was responding to JW saying that the Clinton admin warned the Bush admin about bin Laden. If Clinton had taken bin Laden there would have been no need for the warning. I'm not addressing the billboard.

But while we're at it, if it is logical to say Bush is responsible for 9/11 because the warning wasn't heeded, then it is also logical to say that Bush is reponsible for no attacks on American soil now. I'm not saying either is logical, I'm saying that I don't understand why the first is logical, as JW seems to think based on his posting.

[JWBear]

The investigation into the USS Cole attack did not conclude until 1/19/01 - the day before Bush's inauguration. Later that month, the evidence was presented to Bush, who did nothing.

Yeah... It's all Clinton's fault...

[JWBear]

On another track... I don't know why I find him fascinating, but...

Omar bin Laden, the peace advocate


But dude, that hair... Seriously!

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by JWBear

The investigation into the USS Cole attack did not conclude until 1/19/01 - the day before Bush's inauguration. Later that month, the evidence was presented to Bush, who did nothing.

Yeah... It's all Clinton's fault...

I didn't say that. You are the one saying it is all Bush's fault. I'm saying it's all the fault of the terrorists. Clinton could have done more. Bush could have done more. Neither were involved in the attacks themselves. Unless you are a conspiracy theorist.

[Gemini Cricket]

I posted the article for the billboard and him pimping his single, btw. Didn't mean to start yet another row about Bush, 9/11 and Clinton.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

I didn't say that. You are the one saying it is all Bush's fault. I'm saying it's all the fault of the terrorists. Clinton could have done more. Bush could have done more. Neither were involved in the attacks themselves. Unless you are a conspiracy theorist.

I'm not sure I'm seeing where JW said it was "Bush's fault". He, rightly, pointed out that Bush did not prevent 9/11, which is a perfectly salient point in response to a stupid billboard that is trying to convince people that a Republican President will make us immune to terrorist attacks.

[Alex]

The real point is that if Carter hadn't killed the Shah, then none of this would have happened.

Yes, I know that isn't historically accurate or particularly sensible. But then most of the arguments on who is to blame for allowing 9/11 suffer the same issues.

[scaeagles]

I read his "they had 7 months to do something and did nothing" comment as blame assignment.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

I read his "they had 7 months to do something and did nothing" comment as blame assignment.

Read it whatever way you want, the reality is all that it means is that to claim that Democrat=death by terrorists and Republican=safe from terrorists is a load of sh*t.