Help me understand the Super Hero genre - Page 3

innerSpaceman · 07-25-2008, 09:20 AM

I just like a good fantasy movie. Also something about basically the same story over and over again, but seeing how it's told by different artists in slightly different forms. The origin story especially is the same same same thing, over and over ... but the others also boil down to three or four tales told repeatedly, in slightly different styles.

I like the mythos stuff and good vs. evil boiled down to basics stuff. But not so much that I'd ever read a comic book.

Nope, it's the fantasy film fantastic stuff and visuals that appeals to me, and the superhero / comic book movie is just a subset of that.

BTW, the best movie for comic book superhero mythos understanding and exploration - which gave me a new appreciation for the movie genre I was into for different reasons - is M. Knight Shyamalan's underseen Unbreakable with Samuel L. Jackson and Bruce Willis. Fantastic.

Cadaverous Pallor · 07-25-2008, 10:25 AM

Just to be clear - I was never into super hero comics, had a couple as gifts but never liked them, read one girly comic series...but I've always dug the movies. I was so in love with Christopher Reeve.

ETA - just wait until Borneio gets here

innerSpaceman · 07-25-2008, 10:36 AM

I love that Singer's Superman Returns was so reverential and referential to the Christopher Reeve Superman series, but the Nolan Batman series is its own animal.

Chris Reeve's 1978 Superman started this whole thing. You can hardly make a Superman movie without acknowleding it. So many Batman flicks by so many different artists make that one more of a free reign zone.

And, of course, there were no previous Spiderman or IronMan movies to have to deal with.

I didn't see this summer's The Incredible Hulk - did it pay homage to the Ang Lee original??

Kevy Baby · 07-25-2008, 10:42 AM

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I like to see s*** blown up.

I still believe this is the best answer

Strangler Lewis · 07-25-2008, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

The good ones have a lot of ambiguity.

I was always moved by Archie's eternal dilemma: Betty or Veronica.

The best pro wrestling story lines also have a lot of ambiguity. There are very few pure heels or faces anymore.

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Why am I not surprised the Heroes is one of the only shows I make it a point to watch and Strangler hates it?

I don't hate it. I've never seen it. I just hate the idea of it. If I watched it, I'd probably get into it.

Ghoulish Delight · 07-25-2008, 02:24 PM

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I don't hate it. I've never seen it. I just hate the idea of it. If I watched it, I'd probably get into it.

We gave up before the end of season 1. Started out great but the dialog got way too exposition-heavy and the acting left a lot to be desired.

innerSpaceman · 07-25-2008, 02:56 PM

Season Two was supposedly a disaster that began to right itself just as the righting writers went on strike, so it ended with a promising whimper. I haven't seen it. Season 3 is supposedly better.

Hmmm, to rent or not to rent?

JWBear · 07-25-2008, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Season Two was supposedly a disaster that began to right itself just as the righting writers went on strike, so it ended with a promising whimper. I haven't seen it. Season 3 is supposedly better.

Hmmm, to rent or not to rent?

It's got a lot of hot guys in it!

innerSpaceman · 07-25-2008, 04:15 PM

OMG, one-track mind.

(But, I like to take a few laps around that track myself)

JWBear · 07-25-2008, 04:44 PM

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OMG, one-track mind....

Yes, like every male on this planet.

07-25-2008, 09:20 AM	#21
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	I just like a good fantasy movie. Also something about basically the same story over and over again, but seeing how it's told by different artists in slightly different forms. The origin story especially is the same same same thing, over and over ... but the others also boil down to three or four tales told repeatedly, in slightly different styles. I like the mythos stuff and good vs. evil boiled down to basics stuff. But not so much that I'd ever read a comic book. Nope, it's the fantasy film fantastic stuff and visuals that appeals to me, and the superhero / comic book movie is just a subset of that. BTW, the best movie for comic book superhero mythos understanding and exploration - which gave me a new appreciation for the movie genre I was into for different reasons - is M. Knight Shyamalan's underseen Unbreakable with Samuel L. Jackson and Bruce Willis. Fantastic.
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Cadaverous Pallor ohhhh baby Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Parental Bliss Posts: 12,364	Just to be clear - I was never into super hero comics, had a couple as gifts but never liked them, read one girly comic series...but I've always dug the movies. I was so in love with Christopher Reeve. ETA - just wait until Borneio gets here __________________ The second star to the right shines in the night for you
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07-25-2008, 10:36 AM	#23
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	I love that Singer's Superman Returns was so reverential and referential to the Christopher Reeve Superman series, but the Nolan Batman series is its own animal. Chris Reeve's 1978 Superman started this whole thing. You can hardly make a Superman movie without acknowleding it. So many Batman flicks by so many different artists make that one more of a free reign zone. And, of course, there were no previous Spiderman or IronMan movies to have to deal with. I didn't see this summer's The Incredible Hulk - did it pay homage to the Ang Lee original??
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07-25-2008, 02:56 PM	#27
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Season Two was supposedly a disaster that began to right itself just as the righting writers went on strike, so it ended with a promising whimper. I haven't seen it. Season 3 is supposedly better. Hmmm, to rent or not to rent?
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07-25-2008, 04:15 PM	#29
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	OMG, one-track mind. (But, I like to take a few laps around that track myself)
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