All About McCain - Page 5

scaeagles · 08-07-2008, 12:14 PM

I am also wondering how this compares to Obama changing his positions to move toward the center and if that's acceptable.

innerSpaceman · 08-07-2008, 12:25 PM

It's not acceptable to me. I frelling hate Obama right about now.

Alex · 08-07-2008, 12:49 PM

I'm fine with it. It moves him a bit closer to me on several policy issues and I still like him as a candidate, leader, and being a clean break from the current institution of political power families.

McCain's changes just move him farther away from me on many of the issues he has changed on. And while Obama's changes may move him farther from the political center of his party towards the political center of the country, McCain's are moving him from the political center of the country towards the political center of his party.

But I don't really think that either candidate has done nearly so much flip flopping as opponents enjoy pretending. They just stop allowing for any nuance of position and call it a flip flop.

Alex · 08-07-2008, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

It's not acceptable to me. I frelling hate Obama right about now.

But you never liked him much to begin with. It wasn't that long ago that you were saying if Clinton didn't get the nomination you might vote for McCain.

innerSpaceman · 08-07-2008, 01:22 PM

Exactly, which is why I very much dislike him now.

Alas, McCain has moved even further from my happy place.

Nader's on the ballot in California. I might vote for him. He might have become as untenable in his old age as McCain has in his ... but Nader hasn't got a chance, so I wouldn't have to worry about that. Obama has California locked up, so I might just vote my (past-tense) conscience and vote for Nader again (I picked him over Gore, too).

Gemini Cricket · 08-07-2008, 02:31 PM

Paris responds to McCain's Celebrity ad

Okay, I can't stand her. But this is pretty funny. Snaps to her for being funny.

Pirate Bill · 08-07-2008, 03:00 PM

Only my reptilian brain has found Paris sexy. And even though I know her "energy policy" was scripted, she actually sounded intelligent and... human. For a minute there at least. And now, I... I think I'm in love.

She's got my vote, 'cuz that ad was hot.

Ghoulish Delight · 08-07-2008, 03:01 PM

She's a good actress. Her SNL appearance proved that.

wendybeth · 08-07-2008, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

I am also wondering how this compares to Obama changing his positions to move toward the center and if that's acceptable.

As a moderate, I'm good with a candidate who's not too far right or left. So, Obama's moves aren't nearly as annoying as McCain's, who would be much better off if he stuck to his earlier, more central stance.

JWBear · 08-07-2008, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by wendybeth

As a moderate, I'm good with a candidate who's not too far right or left. So, Obama's moves aren't nearly as annoying as McCain's, who would be much better off if he stuck to his earlier, more central stance.

Agreed.

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08-07-2008, 12:49 PM	#43
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	I'm fine with it. It moves him a bit closer to me on several policy issues and I still like him as a candidate, leader, and being a clean break from the current institution of political power families. McCain's changes just move him farther away from me on many of the issues he has changed on. And while Obama's changes may move him farther from the political center of his party towards the political center of the country, McCain's are moving him from the political center of the country towards the political center of his party. But I don't really think that either candidate has done nearly so much flip flopping as opponents enjoy pretending. They just stop allowing for any nuance of position and call it a flip flop.
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08-07-2008, 01:22 PM	#45
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Exactly, which is why I very much dislike him now. Alas, McCain has moved even further from my happy place. Nader's on the ballot in California. I might vote for him. He might have become as untenable in his old age as McCain has in his ... but Nader hasn't got a chance, so I wouldn't have to worry about that. Obama has California locked up, so I might just vote my (past-tense) conscience and vote for Nader again (I picked him over Gore, too).
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Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	Paris responds to McCain's Celebrity ad Okay, I can't stand her. But this is pretty funny. Snaps to her for being funny.
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Pirate Bill Quality since 1973 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Right here Posts: 473	Only my reptilian brain has found Paris sexy. And even though I know her "energy policy" was scripted, she actually sounded intelligent and... human. For a minute there at least. And now, I... I think I'm in love. She's got my vote, 'cuz that ad was hot.
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